>>>>> "nw" == Nicolas Williams <nicolas.willi...@sun.com> writes:

    nw> What could we do to make it easier to use ACLs?

1. how about AFS-style ones where the effective permission is the AND
   of the ACL and the unix permission?  You might have to combine this
   with an inheritable-by-subdirectories umask setting so you could
   create ACL-dominated lands of files that are all unix 777, but this
   would stop clobbering difficult-to-recreate ACL's as well as
   unintended information leaking.

2. define a standard API for them, add ability to replicate them to
   the GNU tools everyone else uses: GNUtar, rsync, and the fileutils
   (not the Solaris private versions full of weird options that can't
   handle large files or long pathnames, and not the Joerg Shilling
   tool), and *GET THE CHANGES MERGED UPSTREAM* so that as other OS's
   start supporting NFSv4, the same code is working over the ACL's
   everywhere.

Maybe we're beyond the point of no return for the first suggestion.

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