> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:48:52 -0500
> From: Miles Nordin <car...@ivy.net>
> To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send/receive as backup - reliability?
> Message-ID: <oqpr55lt1n....@castrovalva.ivy.net>
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> I don't think a replacement for the ufsdump/ufsrestore tool is really
> needed.  From now on, backups just go into Another Zpool.
> 
> We need the zfs send stream format commitment (stream format depends
> only on zfs version, not on zpool version or kernel version), but
> that's enough.
> 
> 
> If people are really still backing up to tapes or DVD's, just use file
> vdev's, export the pool, and then copy the unmounted vdev onto the
> tape or DVD.  The requirement that your backup be staged on a disk
> isn't an obstacle in the backup direction: Amanda already has this
> requirement.  Amanda, when I used it, did *not* have this requirement
> in the restore direction so one would have to keep that in mind: if
> using tapes, he needs a scratch disk as big as the biggest tape file
> on the DR site or the development environment or Compliance Extractor
> Station or wherever the restore is happening.


While this idea may be fine for a home user…those us of who have customers in 
the enterprise still have a need for tape backups.

And some of those enterprises require backup mechanism that can be easily used 
in a DR situation.

ufsdump/restore was perfect in that regard.  The lack of equivalent 
functionality is a big problem for the situations where this functionality is a 
business requirement.

For example, one customer, local government, requires a backup that can be 
taken offsite and used in a DR situation.  They have 2 sun servers.  They have 
very little Solaris knowledge. So whatever I provide them has to be easy and 
easily documented.  Lack of "zfsdump/restore" means I either have to forgo 
moving them to ZFS root, or have to add in a third party application…like I'm 
really going to meet their requirements with Amanda or Backula…

This lack in Solaris is just plain ludicrous to at least some parts of the 
business/enterprise world.
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