Hi Chris,

It sounds like there is some confusion with the recommendation about raidz?
vdevs. It is recommended that each raidz? TLD be a "single-digit" number of
disks - so up to 9. The total number of these single digit TLDs is not
practically limited.

Craig



Christopher White wrote:
> Cindy --
>
> Thanks for the link!
>
> I see in one of the examples that there are 14 TLDs (all mirrored).  Does
> that mean there are no performance issues with having more than 9 TLDs?  In
> the Sun class I attended, the instructor said to not use more than 9 TLDs,
> which seems like it could be very limiting, especially in a SAN setting.
> Like I said, our storage group presents 15G LUNs to use -- so it'd be
> difficult to keep the TLDs under 9 and have a very large filesystem.
>
> Let me know what you think.  Thanks!
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Cindy Swearingen
> <cindy.swearin...@sun.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> If you have 40 or so disks then you would create 5-6 RAIDZ virtual
>> devices of 7-8 disks each, or possibly include two disks for the root
>> pool, two disks as spares, and then 36 (4 RAIDZ vdevs of 6 disks) disks
>> for a non-root pool.
>>
>> This configuration guide hasn't been updated for RAIDZ-3 yet, but you
>> will get some ideas about how to configure a redundant configuration
>> of many disks, here:
>>
>> http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Configuration_Guide
>>
>> See ZFS Configuration Example (x4500 with raidz2)
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>>
>> On 12/01/09 09:20, Christopher White wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> We're going to start testing ZFS and I had a question about Top Level
>>> Devices (TLDs).  In Sun's class, they specifically said not to use more
>>> than
>>> 9 TLDs due to performance concerns.  Our storage admins make LUNs roughly
>>> 15G in size -- so how would we make a large pool (1TB) if we're limited to
>>> only 9 TLDs?
>>>
>>> The Best Practices guide (
>>> http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#Storage_Pool_Performance_Considerations)
>>> suggests not using 40+ disks in a RAIDZ TLD:
>>>
>>> "Avoid creating a RAIDZ, RAIDZ-2, RAIDZ-3, or a mirrored configuration
>>> with one logical device of 40+ devices. See the sections below for examples
>>> of redundant configurations."
>>>
>>> Does that mean we should only have 9 RAIDZ TLDs with 39 LUNs in each
>>> RAIDZ?
>>>
>>> Or is the 9 TLDs an old recommendation that has since been changed?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
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