Also if you are a startup, there are some ridiculously sweet deals on Sun 
hardware through the Sun Startup Essentials program. 
http://sun.com/startups

This way you do not need to worry about compatibility and you get all the 
Enterprise RAS features at a pretty low price point.

-Angelo


On Nov 17, 2009, at 4:14 PM, Bruno Sousa wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I currently have a 1U server (Sun X2200) with 2 LSI HBA attached to a
> Supermicro JBOD chassis each one with 24 disks , SATA 1TB, and so far so
> good..
> So i have a 48 TB raw capacity, with a mirror configuration for NFS
> usage (Xen VMs) and i feel that for the price i paid i have a very nice 
> system.
> 
> 
> Bruno
> 
> Ian Allison wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I know (from the zfs-discuss archives and other places [1,2,3,4]) that
>> a lot of people are looking to use zfs as a storage server in the
>> 10-100TB range.
>> 
>> I'm in the same boat, but I've found that hardware choice is the
>> biggest issue. I'm struggling to find something which will work nicely
>> under solaris and which meets my expectations in terms of hardware.
>> Because of the compatibility issues, I though I should ask here to see
>> what solutions people have already found.
>> 
>> 
>> I'm learning as I go here, but as far as I've been able to determine,
>> the basic choices for attaching drives seem to be
>> 
>> 1) SATA Port multipliers
>> 2) SAS Multilane Enclosures
>> 3) SAS Expanders
>> 
>> In option 1, the controller can only talk to one device at a time, in
>> option 2 each miniSAS connector can talk to 4 drives at a time but in
>> option 3 the expander can allow for communication with up to 128
>> drives. I'm thinking about having ~8-16 drives on each controller
>> (PCI-e card) so I think I want option 3. Additionally, because I might
>> get greedier in the future and decide to add more drives on each
>> controller I think option 3 is the best way to go. I can have a
>> motherboard with a lot of PCIe slots and have one controller card for
>> each expander.
>> 
>> 
>> Cases like the Supermicro 846E1-R900B have 24 hot swap bays accessible
>> via a single (4u) LSI SASX36 SAS expander chip, but I'm worried about
>> controller death and having the backplane as a single point of failure.
>> 
>> I guess, ideally, I'd like a 4u enclosure with 2x2u SAS expanders. If
>> I wanted hardware redundancy, I could then use mirrored vdevs with one
>> side of each  mirror on one controller/expander pair and the other
>> side on a separate pair. This would allow me to survive controller or
>> expander death as well hard drive failure.
>> 
>> 
>> Replace motherboard: ~500
>> Replace backplane: ~500
>> Replace controller: ~300
>> Replace disk (SATA): ~100
>> 
>> 
>> Does anyone have any example systems they have built or any thoughts
>> on what I could do differently?
>> 
>> Best regards,
>>    Ian.
>> 
>> 
>> [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org/msg27234.html
>> [2] http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17543496
>> [3] http://www.stringliterals.com/?p=53
>> [4] http://www.mail-archive.com/zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org/msg22761.html
>> 
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