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From: Al Hopper <a...@logical-approach.com>
Date: Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS & HW RAID
To: Scott Lawson <scott.law...@manukau.ac.nz>




On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Scott Lawson <scott.law...@manukau.ac.nz>wrote:

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>  Sun Directory Environment:
> The directory team is running HP DL385 G2, which also has a built-in HW
> RAID controller for 5 internal SAS disks. The team currently has DS5.2
> deployed on RHEL3, but as we move to DS6.3.1, they may want to move to
> Solaris 10. We have an opportunity to move to ZFS in this environment, but
> am curious how to best leverage ZFS capabilities in this scenario. JBOD is
> very clear, but a lot of manufacturers out there are still offering HW RAID
> technologies, with high-speed caches. Using ZFS with these is not very clear
> to me, and as I mentioned, there are very mixed reviews, not on ZFS
> features, but how it’s used in HW RAID settings.
>
> Sun Directory environment generally isn't very IO intensive, except for in
> massive data reloads or indexing operations. Other than this it is an ideal
> candidate for ZFS
> and it's rather nice ARC cache. Memory is cheap on a lot of boxes and it
> will make read only type file systems fly. I imagine your actual living LDAP
> data set on disk
> probably won't be larger than 10 Gigs or so? I have around 400K objects in
> mine and it's only about 2 Gigs or so including all our indexes. I tend to
> tune DS up
> so that everything it needs is in RAM anyway. As far as diectory server
> goes, are you using the 64 bit version on Linux? If not you should be as
> well.
>

It would make sense  IMHO to spend your budget on enterprise grade SSDs for
this use case than to use EMC based storage.  Imagine a 3-way or 4-way
mirror of SSDs and the I/O  Ops/Sec you'd get for it!!

Bear in mind that Intel will soon release their 2nd generation "E" series
SSD products - which is based on SLC flash.

I know that politics may get in the way - but for certain workloads, the
price/performance of EMC is difficult to justify IMHO.

Thanks for any observations.
>
> Lloyd
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