On Sep 15, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Dale Ghent wrote:

Question though... why is bug fix that can be a watershed for performance be held back for so long? s10u9 won't be available for at least 6 months from now, and with a huge environment, I try hard not to live off of IDRs.

As someone who currently faces kernel panics with recent U7+ kernel patches (on AMD64 and SPARC) related to PCI bus upset, I expect that Sun will take the time to make sure that the implementation is as good as it can be and is thoroughly tested before release.

Are you referring the the same testing that gained you this PCI panic feature in s10u7?

Testing is a no-brainer, and I would expect that there already exists some level of assurance that a CR fix is correct at the point of putback.

But I've dealt with many bugs both very recently and long in the past where a fix has existed in nevada for months, even a year, before I got bit by the same bug in s10 and then had to go through the support channels to A) convince whomever I'm talking to that, yes, I'm hitting this bug, B) yes, there is a fix, and then C) pretty please can I have an IDR

Just this week I'm wrapping up testing of a IDR which addresses a e1000g hardware errata that was fixed in onnv earlier this year in February. For something that addresses a hardware issue on a Intel chipset used on shipping Sun servers, one would think that Sustaining would be on the ball and get that integrated ASAP. But the current mode of operation appears to be "no CR, no backport", which leaves us customers needlessly running into bugs and then begging for their fixes... or hearing the dreaded "oh that fix will be available two updates from now." Not cool.

/dale



/dale
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