udip...@gmail.com said:
> dick at nagual.nl wrote:
>> Maybe because on the fifth day some hardware failure occurred? ;-)
> 
> That would be which? The system works and is up and running beautifully.
> OpenSolaris, as of now.

Running beautifully as long as the power stays on?  Is it hard to believe
hardware might glitch at power-failure (or power-on-after-failure)?


> Ah, you're hinting at a rare hardware glitch as  underlying problem? AFAIU,
> it is a proclaimed feature of ZFS that writes  are atomic, out and over

Not only does ZFS advertise atomic updates, it also _depends_ on them,
and checks for them having happened, likely more so than other filesystems.
Is it hard to believe that ZFS is exercising and/or checking up on your
hardware in ways that Linux does not do?


> Uwe,
> who is a big fan of a ZFS that fulfills all of its promises. Snapshots  and
> luupgrade have yet to fail me on it. And a few other beautiful  things. It is
> the reliability that makes me wonder if UFS/FFS/ext3 are  not better choices
> in this respect. Blaming standard, off-the-shelf hardware as 'too cheap' is a
> too  slippery slope, btw. 

Sorry to hear you're still having this issue.  I can only offer anecdotal
experience:  Running Solaris-10 here, non-mirrored ZFS root/boot since
last December (other ZFS filesystems, mirrored and non-mirrored, for 2 years
prior), on standard off-the-shelf PC, slightly more than 5 years old.  This
system has been through multiple power-failures, never with any corruption.
Same goes for a 2-yr-old Dell desktop PC at work, with mirrored ZFS root/boot;
Multiple power failures, never any reported checksum errors or other 
corruption.

We also have Solaris-10 systems at work, non-ZFS-boot, but with ZFS running
without redundancy on non-Sun fiberchannel RAID gear.  These have had
power failures and other SAN outages without causing corruption of ZFS
filesystems.

We have experienced a number of times where systems failed to boot after
power-failure, due to boot-archive being out of date.  Not corrupted, just
out of date.  Annoying and inconvient for production systems, but nothing
at all to do with ZFS.

So, I personally have not found ZFS to be any less reliable in presence of
power failures than Solaris-10/UFS or Linux on the same hardware.

I wonder what is it that's unique or rare about your situation, that
OpenSolaris and/or ZFS is uncovering?  I also wonder how hard it might
be to make ZFS resilient to whatever unique/rare circumstances you have,
as compared to finding/fixing/avoiding those circumstances.

Regards,

Marion


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