2009/4/14 Miles Nordin <car...@ivy.net>
>
> well that's not what I meant though.  The battery RAM cache's behavior
> can't be determined by RTFS whether you use ZFS or not, and the
> behavior matters to both ZFS users and non ZFS users.  The advantage I
> saw to ZFS slogs, is that you can inspect the source (and blogs about
> the source) to determine lots of details about how slogs behave
> including answers to the questions above.  Better yet, with some skill
> you can change the answers to suit yourself.  This process leads to
> some mix of good behavior and well-understood errata, while the other
> process leads to frustration, war stories, and cargo-cult maintenance
> ``procedures''.
>

This is a good point.  Performance vs reliability is the constant struggle,
but if you don't have the right information you just have to go with what
you know.

   >> it's so extremely cheap
>
>     nl> That;s the big point.  10,000 USD for a 2U 12 disk 10TB raw
>    nl> NAS or 100,000 USD for the equalivent appliance.
>
> here I was talking again about battery-RAM RAID-on-a-card vs. slog.
> The battery-RAM is maybe a little bit less extra cost than X25E or
> ACARD, like $250 instead of $500, plus it doesn't consume a drive
> slot.  This amount of cost edge matters to people with large clusters,
> or to the rented-hardware hosting business.


Problem is the ACARD units while maybe being cheap are not useful - 5.25"
form factor is no good in any rack based storage system.


>
> If both firmware and driver for the LSI 1078 cards were open source, I
> bet we could turn the RAM on the LSI cards into a slog.  This would be
> better than a SATA slog because it'd have full PCIe bandwidth and
> low-latency to the RAM instead of just SATA.  but it's all
> proprietary, so I'm going with the slog.  and keeping an eye on
> FreeBSD, since maybe if they manage to get ZFS working well in 8.0 I
> can finally get ZFS on top of proper drivers for the disk controller
> card and SCSI mid-layer.
>

As you say, without detail a good slog is really the only option.

Does anyone know if the Fusion-io cards have solaris drivers yet?

Nicholas
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