>>>>> "mb" == Matt Beebe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
mb> Anyone know of a SATA and/or SAS HBA with battery backed write mb> cache? I've never heard of a battery that's used for anything but RAID features. It's an interesting question, if you use the controller in ``JBOD mode'' will it use the write cache or not? I would guess not, but it might. And if it doesn't, can you force it, even by doing sneaky things like making 2-disk mirrors where 1 disk happens to be missing thus wasting half the ports you bought, but turning on the damned write cache? I don't know. The alternative is to get a battery-backed SATA slog like the gigabyte iram. However, beware, because once you add a slog to a pool, you can never remove it. You can't improt the pool without the slog, not even DEGRADED, not even if you want ZFS to pretend the slog is empty, not even if the slog actually was empty. IIRC (might be confused) Ross found the pool will mount at boot without the slog if it's listed in zpool.cache (why? don't know, but I think he said it does), but once you export the pool there is no way to get it back into zpool.cache since zpool.cache is a secret binary config file. Can you substitute any empty device for the missing slog? nope---the slog has secret binary header label on it. I'm guessing one of the reasons you wanted a non-RAID controller with a write cache was so that if the controller failed, and the exact same model wasn't available to replace it, most of your pool would still be readable with any random controller, modulo risk of corruption from the lost write cache. so...with the slog, you don't have that, because there are magic irreplaceable bits stored on the slog without which your whole pool is useless. bash-3.00# zpool import -d /usr/vdev pool: slogtest id: 11808644862621052048 state: ONLINE action: The pool can be imported using its name or numeric identifier. config: slogtest ONLINE mirror ONLINE /usr/vdev/d0 ONLINE /usr/vdev/d1 ONLINE logs slogtest ONLINE /usr/vdev/slog ONLINE bash-3.00# mv vdev/slog . bash-3.00# zpool import -d /usr/vdev pool: slogtest id: 11808644862621052048 state: FAULTED status: One or more devices are missing from the system. action: The pool cannot be imported. Attach the missing devices and try again. see: http://www.sun.com/msg/ZFS-8000-6X config: slogtest UNAVAIL missing device mirror ONLINE /usr/vdev/d0 ONLINE /usr/vdev/d1 ONLINE Additional devices are known to be part of this pool, though their exact configuration cannot be determined. bash-3.00# damn. ``no user-serviceable parts inside.'' however, if you were sneaky enough to save a backup copy of your empty slog to get around Solaris's obtinence, maybe you can proceed: bash-3.00# gzip slog <-- save a copy of the exported empty slog bash-3.00# ls -l slog.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 106209 Sep 3 16:17 slog.gz bash-3.00# gunzip < slog.gz > vdev/slog bash-3.00# zpool import -d /usr/vdev pool: slogtest id: 11808644862621052048 state: ONLINE action: The pool can be imported using its name or numeric identifier. config: slogtest ONLINE mirror ONLINE /usr/vdev/d0 ONLINE /usr/vdev/d1 ONLINE logs slogtest ONLINE /usr/vdev/slog ONLINE bash-3.00# zpool import -d /usr/vdev slogtest bash-3.00# pax -rwpe /usr/sfw/bin /slogtest ^C bash-3.00# zpool export slogtest bash-3.00# gunzip < slog.gz > vdev/slog <-- wipe the slog bash-3.00# zpool import -d /usr/vdev slogtest bash-3.00# zfs list -r slogtest NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT slogtest 18.1M 25.4M 17.9M /slogtest bash-3.00# zpool scrub slogtest bash-3.00# zpool status slogtest pool: slogtest state: ONLINE scrub: scrub completed with 0 errors on Wed Sep 3 16:23:44 2008 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM slogtest ONLINE 0 0 0 mirror ONLINE 0 0 0 /usr/vdev/d0 ONLINE 0 0 0 /usr/vdev/d1 ONLINE 0 0 0 logs ONLINE 0 0 0 /usr/vdev/slog ONLINE 0 0 0 errors: No known data errors bash-3.00# I'm not sure this will always work, because there probably wasn't anything in the slog when I wiped it. But I guess it's better than ``restore your pool from backup'' because of the pedantry of some wallpaper tool and brittle windows-registry-style binary config files.
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