On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Paul B. Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Bob Netherton wrote:
>
>> Get some stick time with this capability using SXCE or OpenSolaris so
>> that you can reduce the time it takes to deploy whatever upcoming Solaris
>> update has ZFS root (how's that for being evasive....).
>
> I've heard from reasonably credible sources that ZFS boot will be released
> in U6, I will be extremely disappointed if that is not the case :(.
>
> Will the jumpstart configuration for ZFS root in an upcoming update (which
> best be U6 or I might go postal ;) ) be pretty much the same as exists in
> SXCE?
>
>> Out of curiosity, where did it miss the mark ?  It is still very much
>> work in progress, early adopter stuff, but what were the things that kept
>> you from deploying it.  Just curious.
>
> We have a customized almost completely hands-off jumpstart installation
> configuration for Solaris; hand installing from a GUI wasn't exactly
> compelling. In addition, there was no package customization available for
> the install. I spent a couple of days trying to convert an OpenSolaris
> 2005.08 installation into a configuration suitable for a production server,
> but I kept breaking stuff trying to prune out extraneous packages.
>
> >From various mailing list threads, I got the impression that people were
> having weird problems. Also, I was unable to clarify exactly how support
> for openSolaris was going to work, which would make me uncomfortable
> deploying it in a critical production server.
>
> Maybe in six months or a year once enterprise-level installers are
> available and the support model shakes out we can re-evaluate it. I really
> did like the concept of the new packaging, it's much better than the
> existing patch hell.  Still quite a few rough edges though...
>
>
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> Paul B. Henson  |  (909) 979-6361  |  http://www.csupomona.edu/~henson/
> Operating Systems and Network Analyst  |  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> California State Polytechnic University  |  Pomona CA 91768

Hi Paul,

A good, thought provoking question/thread on an issue which is being
faced by many community members.  My personal (Logical (pardon the
pun)) solution is to deploy SXDE (based on build 79b [0]) - which I
believe is a great compromise between the stability/relibility of a
commercial Solaris release, and the not-quite-ready-for-prime-time
os200805 release.   Used in conjunction with a hands-*on* PXE boot
which delivers ZFS based boot filesystems [1] - I'm really pleased
with the results.  Now I'm  sure you realize, that when it's time to
upgrade this setup, it won't be a simple "push-button" upgrade, but it
can be done.

And for bleeding edge try-to-fry-it releases - build 90 is the way to go.

I've given up on the Solaris train - the unreliable patch process is
like playing Russian Roulette - except that that odds are even poorer!
  On the other hand, many Solaris users have been "lucky" many times
in a row and don't entirely understand their risk exposure!  :)

I'm sure that the next release of os2008 will be a total winner.  It's
just not ready for (production) prime time now IMHO.  And the "bugs"
are still being worked out of the current IPS delivery mechanis -
which is a binary only release mechanism, if I understand it
correctly.

In the meantime we're running SXDE on several boxes and I'm really
pleased with the feature/performance/stability mix.  It might well be
the last SXDE release - but there is no doubt in my mind, that it's
the finest SXDE that was ever released! :)   Kudos to all who worked
so hard to make it happen.

[0] the "b" indicates that it required two "re-spins".
[1] http://sol10frominnerspace.blogspot.com/2007_09_01_archive.html

Regards,

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