On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Brian Hechinger wrote:

> I will be putting 4 500GB SATA disks in my Ultra80.  I currently have
> two 10K rpm 73G SCSI disks in it with 10G for the OS (UFS) and the
> remaining space for a ZFS pool (the two remaining partitions are setup
> in a mirror).
>
> Would it be worth my while to move all the data off of the zfs partitions
> of the 73G disks and use those partitions for ZIL?  Would I really gain
> any performance from that?

Hi Brian,

I don't think you'll see any worthwhile improvement.  For a ZIL 
device, you really need something like a (small) SAS 15k RPM 3.5" 
drive - which will sustain 700 to 900 IOPS (my number - open to 
argument) - or a RAM disk or one of these [1].

10K RPM SCSI disks will get (best case) 350 to 400 IOPS.  Remember, 
the main issue with legacy SCSI is that (SCSI) commands are sent 
8-bits wide at 5Mbits/Sec - for backwards compatibility.  You simply 
can't send enough commands over a SCSI bus to busy out a modern 10k 
RPM SCSI drive.

BTW, this is easy to verify: just buy the same drive, one with a SCSI 
interface and one with a SAS (or FC) interface, and in about 5 
minutes, you'll be looking for a victim ^H^H^H^H^H^H buyer for the 
SCSI drive.

PS: LsiLogic just updated their SAS HBAs and have a couple of products 
very reasonably priced IMHO.  Combine that with a (single ?) Fujitsu 
MAX3xxxRC (where xxx represents the size) and you'll be wearing a big 
smile every time you work on a system so equipped.

Tell Santa that you want an LsiLogic SAS HBA and some SAS disks for 
Xmas! :)

[1] Finally, someone built a flash SSD that rocks (and they know how 
fast it is judging by the pricetag):
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/21/mtron_ssd_32_gb/
http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3167

Regards,

Al Hopper  Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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