On 11/7/07, can you guess? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Monday, November 5, 2007, 4:42:14 AM, you wrote:
> >
> > cyg> Having gotten a bit tired of the level of ZFS
> > hype floating

I think a personal comment might help here ...

I spend a large part of my life doing system administration, and like
most Solaris 2.5.1/2.6/2.7/8/9 administrators that time was spend on
medium to large SPARC systems ... at companies who could afford it (in
my case a financial institution).

With that came all of the things you expect from really big companies
.. rigorous change control, pain in the ass (borderline neurotic)
management ... clever as can be database administrators, sub par
backups systems forever taking too long and all sorts of third party
storage technologies, each with their own issues.

Since applications and data drive the world, you need decent tools to
get the best from it. So, Veritias and storage vendors like EMC became
hero's overnight in 100% of the organizations I knew off, including
mine.

My last (active) administration days was spend armed with Solaris 9,
ufs with logging, Veritas Volume "Dam"ager ;) and HDS/Symmetrix kit...
which was rock solid, fast enough and with a decent amount of
braincells not too much of a problem to maintain (in a large SAN
environment). Why change ...? Its all good... budget's never come
under pressure.. right? Expensive RISC systems would never be replaced
by cheap commodity parts...

Hang on, you tell me I can pop in Solaris 10, slap in ZFS ... reduce
most of my storage footprint to JBOD's ... (and all of this on a
little old AMD system.).. You must be joking!

Why would I consider a new solution that is safe, fast enough, stable
.. easier to manage and lots cheaper? (That's my fanboy hat, please
excuse)

If administrators consider the above and generate "hype" .. well, then
"hype" away. I believe the proof is in the pudding, so I will
personally hold out some more, until I see (work on) a fully
operational ZFS replacement of the "old school" configurations. (For
me that only becomes a reality when the jbod kit is released next
year.)

But I do believe that some of the "hype" is justified ... maybe not
for a Linux administrator running his (apache/php/mysql) company from
a HP380 with a smartarray controller ... but sure as hell for an old
retired administrator from Solaris environments of yesteryear.

PS: I don't think being sucked into a spec sheet battle between
various file systems makes any sense ... it's about using technology
to give your business an edge ... and zfs (alone) could have changed
my old environment dramatically. Thats why I believe people should
allow for just a little bit of ... "hype" :)
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