On Wed, 4 Jul 2007, Jure Pe�~Mar wrote:

... reformatted ...
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 10:26:20 -0500
Albert Chin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Or maybe someone knows of cheap SSD storage that
could be used for the ZIL?

If 4G is enough for you, take a look at Gigabyte iRam:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Storage/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2180

Linux folks say it's a bit quirky (it sets 'device failure' bit or something like that, so you have to comment out some checking code in the kernel to have it working), but works extremly well in my home box and in few production mail servers.

The Gigabyte iRam is a very "strange" product - in that, it looks to me like Gigabyte can't make up its mind, whether or not it wants to get serious about this product (IMHO). Let me explain:

a) it's built on a custom gate array - if they were serious, they would "convert" the gate array into a ASIC (application specific IC) and gain lower unit cost in return for the upfront NRE (non recurring engineering) costs.

b) it's not particularly fast. On a scale of 1 (slow) to 10 (fast), I'd rate it a 5. They run the RAM parts at 100MHz. The SATA interface is 1.5Mb/Sec - not 3Mb/Sec. Overall - its disappointing - it could have been a great product.

c) it's hard to find/purchase.  You have to be determined to own one.

d) the DDR memory parts are limited to 1Gb/socket. Why not 2 or 4Gb per socket. Again - it "feels" like a Rev 1 product....

e) Having experience with two of these boards, I see the occasional glitch. I've used one as a single ZFS device and run a test zone on it. Occasionally I get a checksum error, which can usually be cleaned up by running a zfs scrub. The zfs scrub runs *very* quickly! :) So I know it's not 100% solid - and I'd have a problem recommending it. OTOH they both work well enough to where I find them useful....

e1) Its a physically large board and will probably make the adjacent PCI slot inaccessible (unless you have a small, low-profile board in mind for the adajacent slot). See next point for physical form factor changes.

f) Recently it was re-branded and re-packaged as the "GO-RAMDiSK-BOX": http://www.dailytech.com/gigabyte+showcases+goramdiskbox/article7563.htm
But try and buy one of these and you'll find it does not exist!

Personal conclusion: This product may well solve a problem for you, as a swap device or for building test/throw-away zones (or whatever) - or it may not. If you buy one - test it thoroughly before you deploy it. Expect it to be fast - but probably not as fast as you would imagine.

I hope this cautionary tale helps someone before they get excited and rush out to buy one of these boards.

PS: the Gigabyte recommend Kingston memory parts work well and are reasonably priced.

Regards,

Al Hopper  Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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