On Thu, 2007-04-05 at 22:59 +0200, Jakob Praher wrote:
> Hi Cyril,
> 
> thanks for your quick response!
> Cyril Plisko wrote:
> > On 4/5/07, Jakob Praher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> hi all,
> > 
> >>
> >> I am new to solaris.
> >> I am creating a zfs filestore which should boot via rootfs.
> >> The version of the system is: SunOS store1 5.10 Generic_118855-33 i86pc
> >> i386 i86pc.
> >>
> >> Now I have seen that there is a new rootfs support for solaris starting
> >> with build: snv_62.
> >> (http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsboot-manual/)
> >>
> >> Is it
> >> a) possible to start from a raidz pool?
> > 
> > No. At this point raidz pool is not usable as a boot pool.
> > 
> 
> Is this possible then to use a mirror pool?
> 

Right now, the only supported root filesystem config for ZFS is a (non-
striped) mirror or single-disk configuration.  


> >> b) possible to update my version using a patch from the web to the above
> >> version?
> > 
> > Generally speaking there is no patch to get your system from any 5.x
> > release
> > to 5.x+1 release. You may, however, upgrade your current system from
> > SunOS 5.10 to Nevada using regular LiveUpgrade or DeadUpgrade(TM)
> > procedure.
> > 
> > (I would just install from scratch - assuming you have all your valuable
> > data stored externally or on exportable zpool)
> >

Unlike may flavors of Linux and *BSD, Solaris does not support live in-
place upgrades between releases (e.g. Solaris 10 to Solaris 11).  It is
similar to the various RPM-based Linux systems that require a boot from
an installation media to do the upgrade.  However, Solaris also supports
something called LiveUpgrade (as Cyril mentioned), where you can upgrade
a running system image to a spare parition, then reboot to the new
partition to get the new OS. 


>  
> So to get this right:
> Nevada == Solaris Express?!
> 

Yes, it's a bit confusing.  Think of "Nevada" as a distro name (in Linux
terms), which uses the OpenSolaris source base.  There are (generally)
weekly builds, which is what you will see referred to as "B61".  Solaris
Express is the marketing name for periodic releases of specific builds
of Nevada (so, every couple of months, a build of Nevada is released as
"Solaris Express" - it's for people who want the latest technology,,
with _some_ support options, while not living on the absolute bleeding
edge like us folks).

> This is a little bit confusing.
> I am very glad Ian Murdock joined Sun. Hopefully system upgrade will be
> as easy as apt-get dist-upgrade.
> Is there any easy way to just get the latest solaris kernel via web?
> 
> thanks
> Jakob

Being able to do a in-place "live" upgrade between releases like with
Debian Linux is unlikely to be supported anytime. We'd probably need to
change package formats (which, is a whole 'nother ball of wax), plus do
a bunch of other work.  There is a Debian pkg-based OpenSolaris distro
called "Nexenta" (http://www.gnusolaris.org) which you might want to at
least look at. 

Realistically, the only way to update a Nevada installation is to either
boot from install media and do an Upgrade Install, or do the LiveUpgrade
thing above. There is something called BFU, but I'd avoid that as a
newbie.

Solaris 10 (the fully supported version) gets periodic back-ports of
many new features first done in Nevada (ZFS being a big one). However,
there is generally a 6-12 month lag time between something appearing in
Nevada and it making it into Solaris 10. 

Solaris 10 is updated through patches, which are now managed via the Sun
Update Connection.

I would subscribe to a couple of the support/discuss mailing lists over
in the OpenSolaris world (http://www.opensolaris.org/os/discussions/),
as this place is pretty much a ZFS-specific place.
 

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