Hello all,

Just my two cents on the issue. The Thumper is proving to be a
terrific database server in all aspects except latency. While the
latency is acceptable, being able to add some degree of battery-backed
write cache that ZFS could use would be phenomenal.

Best Regards,
Jason

On 1/11/07, Jonathan Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Jan 11, 2007, at 15:42, Erik Trimble wrote:

> On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 10:35 -0800, Richard Elling wrote:
>> The product was called Sun PrestoServ.  It was successful for
>> benchmarking
>> and such, but unsuccessful in the market because:
>>
>>      + when there is a failure, your data is spread across multiple
>>        fault domains
>>
>>      + it is not clusterable, which is often a requirement for data
>>        centers
>>
>>      + it used a battery, so you had to deal with physical battery
>>        replacement and all of the associated battery problems
>>
>>      + it had yet another device driver, so integration was a pain
>>
>> Google for it and you'll see all sorts of historical perspective.
>>   -- richard
>
>
> Yes, I remember (and used) PrestoServ. Back in the SPARCcenter 1000
> days. :-)

as do i .. (keep your batteries charged!! and don't panic!)

> And yes, local caching makes the system non-clusterable.

not necessarily .. i like the javaspaces approach to coherency, and
companies like gigaspaces have done some pretty impressive things
with in memory SBA databases and distributed grid architectures ..
intelligent coherency design with a good distribution balance for
local, remote, and redundant can go a long way in improving your
cache numbers.

> However, all
> the other issues are common to a typical HW raid controller, and many
> people use host-based HW controllers just fine and don't find their
> problems to be excessive.

True given most workloads, but in general it's the coherency issues
that drastically affect throughput on shared controllers particularly
as you add and distribute the same luns or data across different
control processors.  Add too many and your cache hit rates might fall
in the toilet.

.je
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