On October 17, 2006 10:59:51 AM -0700 Richard Elling - PAE
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dale Ghent wrote:
On Oct 12, 2006, at 12:23 AM, Frank Cusack wrote:
On October 11, 2006 11:14:59 PM -0400 Dale Ghent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Today, in 2006 - much different story. I even had Linux AND Solaris
problems with my machine's MCP51 chipset when it first came out. Both
forcedeth and nge croaked on it. Welcome to the bleeding edge. You're
unfortunately on the bleeding edge of hardware AND software.
Yeah, Solaris x86 is so bleeding edge that it doesn't even support
Sun's own hardware! (x2100 SATA, which is now already in its second
generation)
You know, I'm really perplexed over that, especially given that the
silicon image chips (AFAIK) aren't in any Sun product and yet they have
a SATA framework driver.
The realities of the hardware world strike again.
Sun does use the Siig SATA chips in some products, Marvell in others,
and NVidia MCPs in others. The difference is in who writes the drivers.
NVidia, for example, has a history of developing their own drivers and
keeping them closed-source. This is their decision and, I speculate,
largely based on their desire to keep the hardware implementation details
from their competitors. If you want NVidia drivers for Solaris, then
please let NVidia know.
I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. Sun sells a hardware product which
their software does not support. The worst part is it is advertised as
working. <http://www.sun.com/servers/entry/x2100/specs.xml>
We are not talking about a 3rd party add-on card, and we are not even
talking about reselling of 3rd party products. Sun badges this as their
own and should support it without customers having to (fruitlessly) ask
the OEM to write a driver. I didn't pay good money to Sun to have to
then turn around and ask another party for support.
BTW, my point about the x2100 was not actually about SATA support, it was
really that Solaris x86 is not bleeding edge, and this hardware is not
bleeding edge. Rather, Solaris x86 simply has poor hardware support.
When it doesn't support Sun's own hardware, now in its SECOND generation,
it seems difficult to claim otherwise.
-frank
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