> This is what your opinion is. Which seems to be vastly overestimating its own > importance.
I do not think you understood what I am trying to advertise. The unification. In other words: If I use kernel.org, I use git tool. If I use YOCTO Poky, I would like to use git tool. For all YOCTO repos, I would like to use git tool. Not repo, kas, or other tools. Not particular tools, assigned to particular tasks, for particular build systems. Since I would like to invest time and effort in ONLY one, comprehensive tool, and discard all other tools which are not up to the complex challenges I have. So this is why I sent initial email, in first place, Thank you, Zoran _______ On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 12:25 PM Josef Holzmayr <holzm...@rsi-elektrotechnik.de> wrote: > > Hello Zoran, > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 12:00:22PM +0100, Zoran Stojsavljevic wrote: > > I am (almost) perfectly aligned with kernel.org, and I (personally) > > decided to use git. Since I start understanding importance of Linus. > > Linux officers and their Linux philosophy. > > You are free to choose your workflow as you please. > > > Now... Answers to your email. KAS (Siemens developed tool by Jan > > Kiszka and his crew) is the supplement for the fast/quick building the > > YOCTO, to use ONLY rootfs. NOT kernel. NOT aligned with the git tool. > > Not applicable for purposes as git. > > It is a tool that serves one purpose. It does that job well. > > > On the other note, repo is GOOGLE tool. Promoted by them. Most of the > > ARM followers (such as Toradex) use repo tool. > > Thats what they choose. > > > You say: I talk to the wrong crew. I think opposite. I am giving the > > generic message via YOCTO email list, to avoid hundreds of particular > > emails, so we can unify the effort. Which is not minor. Rather > > opposite: major. > > > > Since, I guess, this is of the major importance. For YOCTO survival. > > The direction is one: git tool. For all YOCTO developers. IMHO. > > This is what your opinion is. Which seems to be vastly overestimating > its own importance. > > > Stefano, > > > > You, as major official representative of U-Boot philosophy (and > > Wolfgang's Denk right hand), do not take sides, rather ad-hoc > > approach. For you, this topic is not important. Appreciated your help. > > By now, you are telling other people who have been doing thwir work > successfully for decades how to do their jobs. > Actually, telling off one of the core contributors and community members > with "This is not for you" is plain rude. > > > I am asking here for much higher awareness. YOCTO better survival in The > > Future. > > We are doing quite well at the moment, thank you. > > So if you have a proposal on how to improve things, feel free to share > it. Go ahead and lead on how to use that proposal by doing your own > upstream work, showing how emplying your proposal makes it better and > more usable. > > Just getting onto a mailing list and saying "You're doing it wrong > because it doesn't suit my workflow", again, is quite rude. > > Greetz. > > PS: yes, this mail is explicitly meant to support Stefano. > > > > > Thank you, > > Zoran > > _______ > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 10:52 AM Stefano Babic <sba...@denx.de> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Zoran, > > > > > > On 28/11/18 10:17, Zoran Stojsavljevic wrote: > > > > Hello YOCTO people, > > > > > > > > I would like to use standard git tool while using all the Yocto > > > > layers. NOT only Poky repository (which, I believe, works all the way > > > > with git tools), but as much as possible with other github proprietary > > > > repos and layers. Since I am not able to execute git commands using > > > > some number of proprietary repos over github. > > > > > > > > As example, I'll use meta-bbb repository. > > > > https://github.com/jumpnow/meta-bbb.git, after cloning the following > > > > happens (chosen, since it has at least dozen of branches): > > > > > > > > After cloning, I did not get anything from the following commands, > > > > being in the root of the meta-bbb repo, namely: > > > > > > > > [user@fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ pwd > > > > /home/user/projects2/beaglebone-black/yocto-master/meta-bbb > > > > [user@fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ git describe > > > > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > > > > > > I understand, but why is this an issue in Yocto project ? The maintainer > > > does not use tags and git describe is fast useless. > > > > > > You should contact layer's maintainer and ask for that. Anyway, outside > > > poky, tags are quite unused in layers. > > > > > > > [user@fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ git tag > > > > [user@fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ git checkout thud > > > > Branch 'thud' set up to track remote branch 'thud' from 'origin'. > > > > Switched to a new branch 'thud' > > > > [user@fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ git checkout sumo > > > > Switched to branch 'sumo' > > > > Your branch is up to date with 'origin/sumo'. > > > > [user@fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ git describe > > > > fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything. > > > > [user@fedora28-ssd meta-bbb]$ > > > > > > > > The rationale behind this request: git is the powerful tool which > > > > should work and be solely used for YOCTO layers' synchronization. In > > > > other words, YOCTO should give some tools' (namely git) unification > > > > guidelines in some way. :-) > > > > > > It is clear that a tool to maintain the layers in sync is required, but > > > it is quite independent how the layers (and many are proprietary layers) > > > are built. So you can use "repo" or "kas" (my preferred one) for that. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Stefano Babic > > > > > > -- > > > ===================================================================== > > > DENX Software Engineering GmbH, Managing Director: Wolfgang Denk > > > HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany > > > Phone: +49-8142-66989-53 Fax: +49-8142-66989-80 Email: sba...@denx.de > > > ===================================================================== > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > > yocto mailing list > > yocto@yoctoproject.org > > https://lists.yoctoproject.org/listinfo/yocto > > -- > ——————————————— > Josef Holzmayr > Software Developer Embedded Systems > > Tel: +49 8444 9204-48 > Fax: +49 8444 9204-50 > > R-S-I Elektrotechnik GmbH & Co. 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