Hi Paul,

We removed clutter project templates just because we found that the underline 
package support for it is no longer there(in core-image-sato) and assume that 
there's a reason for the change.  I'm in the same boat as you that by no means 
I'm an expert with clutter thus don't know how popular it's among developers. 
But base on my limited experiment with it when adding the template support in 
Eclipse, it seems a pretty neat framework for adding animation support, etc. 
and can be useful  for new application developers doing the work.

Thanks,
Jessica



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From: yocto-boun...@yoctoproject.org [mailto:yocto-boun...@yoctoproject.org] On 
Behalf Of Paul Eggleton
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 1:58 AM
To: Grigoropol, IoanaX
Cc: yocto@yoctoproject.org
Subject: Re: [yocto] [PATCH] Remove clutter project templates

On Wednesday 03 April 2013 08:42:23 Grigoropol, IoanaX wrote:
> Paul Eggleton wrote:
> > On Tuesday 12 March 2013 18:05:33 Ioana Grigoropol wrote:
> > > - support for clutter was removed from core-image-sato along with
> > > clutter-box2d and thus the project templates in Eclipse should not
> > > be supported anymore; gtk templates should be used instead
> >
> > The removal of clutter-box2d doesn't signal that clutter itself is
> > unsupported, so I think maybe we shouldn't be removing these
> > templates just yet.
>
> In my opinion, since clutter was only brought in core-image-sato and
> core-image-sato-sdk by clutter-box2d, and not independently, it means
> it was not really intended to support it.

Possibly; the other alternative is that nobody had really considered the 
question of whether or not it should be included. I'm unsure as to which is the 
case here.

> Do you think there should be support for clutter in the sdk images ?

I would say it depends on whether we believe it will be useful to new 
application developers, or we're just keeping it around for compatibility with 
existing applications. I can see it being useful but I'd probably like to hear 
from Jessica and others as well.

> Clutter + dependencies is not a small package and was only getting
> into images through testapps feature, and we could use gtk templates instead.

True, but Gtk+ and Clutter aren't quite the same thing. I'm not an expert on 
Clutter by any means but I believe it provides a much better framework for 
animations and non-traditional UIs than Gtk+ does.

Cheers,
Paul

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Paul Eggleton
Intel Open Source Technology Centre
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