Op 30 mrt. 2012, om 13:18 heeft Mark Hatle het volgende geschreven:

> On 3/30/12 2:33 PM, Koen Kooi wrote:
>> 
>> Op 30 mrt. 2012, om 12:26 heeft Mark Hatle het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> On 3/30/12 1:44 PM, Koen Kooi wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> RP said I should raise this on the yocto lists, so here it is:
>>>> 
>>>> The Angstrom core team would like to move angstrom under the yocto banner 
>>>> so
>>>> we can formally claim to be 'yocto'.
>>> 
>>> For it to be on the yocto project web site, it just need to have the layers 
>>> hosted on the git.yoctoproject.org.  But there is no "yocto".. It's the 
>>> Yocto Project, Poky, or specific git repositories.  There is no reason we 
>>> can't have an angstrom repository.  It could be in a similar format to the 
>>> Poky repository (everything combined for a single download), or it could be 
>>> a layer [or layers] that sit on top of Poky.
>> 
>> Why on top of poky? I do not want poky, nor do my customers, oe-core is what
>> we need and want. This proposal to move angstrom under yocto is targeted at
>> eliminating 'poky' from the stack while still being able to say 'yocto'.
> 
> Poky is a repository made up of bitbake + oe-core + meta-yocto, as well as a 
> distribution definition (in meta-yocto).  I assume angstrom has it's own 
> distribution definition.
> 
> So my question is why NOT on top of Poky (the repository, not distribution 
> definition)?

1) It's downstream, I want to use upstream (oe-core, bitbake)
2) meta-yocto is *absolutely* unwanted, the meta-ti layer angstrom uses has 
much, much better support for the beagleboard.
3) It's downstream
4) The combo repo makes it harder to contribute things back upstream
5) It's downstream

I know I can change bblayers.conf to remove any unwanted layers, but what's the 
point of using that combo repo if I do that? It means that angstrom developers 
have to spend more time explaining that yes, it's a single git repo, but no, 
you can't send patches against it.

>> We both know that saying it is 'yocto' is wrong and misleading, but that's
>> what users are asking for and yocto advocates seem to push. Just watch the 
>> ELC
>> videos for yocto related presentations, 'yocto' and 'poky' are used
>> interchangeably in most of them.
>> 
>> A 'reference' should be just that, a reference, not a mandated part.
> 
> It's hard to call something Yocto Project based unless it used something from 
> the Yocto Project.  meta-yocto being on of those components.

So you are saying that meta-yocto is an absolute requirement for anything that 
wants to use 'yocto' in its messaging?

> There is enough confusion about yocto vs poky vs..  It's slowly being 
> reconciled and defined.. but it's a slow process for all of us.

Hence this proposal.


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