On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 12:02 +0000, Liam Proven wrote: > Alpine takes 1GB of disk and 100MB of RAM running the same desktop to > deliver the same functionality.
Hi Liam, I completely disagree about the "same functionality". At the latest, when someone starts xfce4-terminal everything is completely different by default than with pretty much any major desktop disto, see my output of a listing of Alpin's /bin [1] and what login shell is mentioned by default in /etc/passwd [2]. Not to mention the fact that Alpine cannot be installed easily, even by very experienced power users. You won't find another GRUB menu entry with such a freakish parameter as modules=ext4 [3] in my grub.cfg that is necessary just to boot a Linux. Regards, Ralf [1] • rocketmouse@archlinux ~ $ ls -hlr /mnt/m1.alpine/bin/ | grep busyb | head -50 lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 zcat ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 watch ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 usleep ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 uname ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 true ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 touch ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 sync ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 stty ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 stat ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 sleep ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Fri Jun 2 08:57:56 2023 sh ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 setserial ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 setpriv ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 sed ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 run-parts ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 rmdir ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 rm ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 rev ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 reformime ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 pwd ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 ps ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 printenv ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 pipe_progress ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 ping6 ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 ping ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 pidof ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 nice ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 netstat ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 mv ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 mpstat ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 mountpoint ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 more ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 mktemp ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 mknod ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 mkdir ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 makemime ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 lzop ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 lsattr ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 ls ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 login ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 ln ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 linux64 ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 linux32 ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 link ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 kill ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 kbd_mode ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 ipcalc ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 iostat ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 ionice ⇒ /bin/busybox lrwxrwxrwx root root 12 B Sat May 27 13:56:39 2023 hostname ⇒ /bin/busybox [2] • rocketmouse@archlinux ~ $ sudo grep ash /mnt/m1.alpine/etc/passwd root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/ash mountainmouse:x:1000:1000:Ralf:/home/mountainmouse:/bin/ash [3] • rocketmouse@archlinux ~ $ grep Alpin /boot/grub/grub.cfg -A4 menuentry " Alpine Linux" { search --no-floppy --set=root --label m1.alpine linux /boot/vmlinuz-lts root=/dev/disk/by-label/m1.alpine ro modules=ext4 initrd /boot/initramfs-lts } -- xubuntu-users mailing list xubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users