I agree with Joel: don't move the default position of the panel anywhere else.
Before I came to *buntu, I was in XP and, I must admit, the positioning of the panel did feel awkward at first. It wasn't very difficult to move it to thr bottom but it just didn't feel right for *buntu. It looked wrong, even. So I put it back. Best if we keep it there and tell them they can move it wherever they like. Thanks, Joan Advincula --- UoPeople Student Ambassador @iamMJae On Mar 24, 2014 1:19 AM, "Joel Carlson" <snugar...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wouldn't move the panel at all. That is one part of Xubuntu that makes > it unique. Instead I would just add some text in the installer to tell them > it can be customized and moved to their liking. I usually show ms people > the ease of which it can be moved and leave it at that. > Just like the libreoffice note on the 13.10 installer seems sufficient to > tell everyone that other products can be installed. > 14.04 beta seems pretty solid and a lot of the minor things have been > cleaned up and fixed making it the most solid release yet. > > Thanks > On Mar 22, 2014 10:39 AM, "Paul" <lent...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> To really capture the Microsoft crowd, the panel should probably be >> positioned at the bottom by default. I've introduced many MS users (XP end >> of life worriers, or computers too old to support the millions of updates) >> to *buntu, and the biggest objection I hear about the XFCE desktop is that >> the "start button" isn't where it's expected. >> >> Regarding the issue of LibreOffice vs AbiWord, AbiWord runs very well >> from memory but I agree that LibreOffice is a much better full package. >> >> Would it be possible to add a button under the Office application group >> that has two functions, depending on whether you're on live or disk install? >> >> 1. On live the button should link to some screenshots/a small slideshow >> presentation of LibreOffice to show people what they can get once it's >> installed. >> 2. Once xubuntu is installed to disk, that button would remove AbiWord >> and install LibreOffice. There could also be an option under it to remove >> the prompt, for the users that were happy with AbiWord. >> >> That way you can see/do everything on the live boot, but the final >> install is much more powerful and MS friendly. >> >> >> On 21/03/14 20:57, PK wrote: >> >> Well, a very important step in the good direction has been the >> introduction of the Whisker menu and the single desktop bar in 14.04. >> >> But the default office applications are still underpowered and feel >> "cheap". It's so cool to have LibreOffice by default..... It's a selling >> point of great value: "look, even from the live session you can not only >> use Firefox, but also a full-fledged Office suite, comparable to Microsoft >> Office." >> >> In my opinion, that would be the last step needed to position Xubuntu as >> *the* cool, professional alternative to the "song and dance" of other >> desktop environments. More immediately attractive to business users as >> well. But not only to business users: many consumers like elegant >> simplicity, too. Provided it's packing all the valuable right stuff by >> default. Deep blue, full power. >> >> Regards, Pjotr. >> >> >> 2014-03-21 21:23 GMT+01:00 Eero Tamminen <o...@helsinkinet.fi>: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On torstai 20 maaliskuu 2014, Lutz Andersohn wrote: >>> > <html> >>> > <head> >>> > <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" >>> > http-equiv="Content-Type"> >>> > </head> >>> > <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> >>> > <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I am taking Elfy's advise replying to >>> > Pjotr:<br> >>> > <br> >>> >>> Your mail client/settings are broken, it's sending HTML. >>> >>> >>> > I think I agree with the LibreOffice suggestion (and the "first >>> > impression"-sentiment) but for a different reason: I think >>> Abiword >>> > and Gnumeric are just fine for everyday needs >>> >>> They fit well on install disk, start faster, use less memory, have >>> better performance at run-time too and IMHO also look better. >>> >>> But if you need to work with other people using MS office, they aren't >>> really compatible enough. One problem is just file compatibility, >>> another one looks of the documents: different font metrics and sizes, >>> differences in styles etc. More complicated documents don't look >>> quite right and if you edit them, their styles get messed up. >>> >>> >>> > but I can see a lot >>> > of users who would want to make slides "out of the box", so they >>> > need Impress. It would be nice if those users had that capability >>> > w/o having to install Libre. <br> >>> >>> That's a good point. >>> >>> >>> > Alternatively, a button would be nice that is labelled "To >>> install >>> > Office Software click here" which then goes out and installs >>> > Libre. I think many of the XP migrants we expect might be >>> > technically capable to install Libre from the Software Center - >>> if >>> > they only new it existed! Since they usually don't know its >>> there, >>> > frustration might arise (When I started using Ubuntu/Xubuntu, >>> > installing an app was easy once I found out there was one! the >>> > hard part was finding it and deciding between the different >>> > options)<br> >>> >>> IMHO this would be good solution. Wording of such button/icon >>> may need some fine tuning though, e.g. "Install MS-office compatible >>> office suite" or "Install full Office suite". >>> >>> Best would be if it would invoke some Software Center introduction >>> which tells new users how to install extra software (besides LO). >>> >>> >>> - Eero >>> >>> -- >>> xubuntu-devel mailing list >>> xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> xubuntu-devel mailing list >> xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel >> >> > -- > xubuntu-devel mailing list > xubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel > >
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