On 7/7/25 09:09, Vladimir Dergachev wrote:


On Mon, 7 Jul 2025, gene heskett wrote:


On 7/7/25 00:05, Vladimir Dergachev wrote:

With KDE (kubuntu) there is "Discover" package manager that runs from user space. It asks you for root password before you install.

I actually thought that's how synaptic worked as well, but maybe I forget.

Starting X apps as another user will not work unless you share your Xauthority file or disable that.

I thank you for your interest.

Disable?

This is for X only, not Wayland, and one can use "xhost -".

But on my system sudo sets up XAUTHORITY variable so it is not necessary. I only use it when I need to start something from another user or lost the environment and ssh -Y won't do.


How?

I'm the only user, and I can sudo anything else UNTIL I try to run synaptic from a shell. Its available in the bookworm menu's and ask's me for my usr pw and then runs ok on Wayland. But running it directly from a shell with sudo is denied with a snotty msg I assume comes from some non gui app that has yet to reveal its identity.  Using the mouse to activate the menu is frustrating because the mouse, despite being programmed for 1 pixel which should make it slow, actually moves 20 or more pixels just for hovering my hand above it, true with every mouse, mostly logitek M325's, that I have, making it damned near impossible to actually click on the correct name in the menu's gui.  copy/paste opertions have to be undone and re-pasted several times to get it right. It has moved the pointer enough to miss the name by up to 4 names. And this bullet-like speed mouse seems not to be debian related, I'm running 3 3d printers with armbian, jammy is usable but nobel is spastic often refusing to redraw the mouse and all 3 with suitable mice, can move the pointer over all of a 27" monitors with under 2" of mouse motion. I am considering redoing the whole front end using jammy only.

I am not sure I understood it about the mouse - it moves too fast on a specific window?
No, all the time, any window, on several machines running bookworm or noble. Armbian is presently a *buntu derivative.

Vladimir Dergachev
Thank you.
I also run 4 metal carving machines with linuxcnc, all running Wheezy as its taken years to get linuxcnc running with python3. Those are also using the logitek M325 mouse but on Wheezy they are good. I'm on speaking terms with OpenSCAD.

best

Thank you Vladimir Dergachev
 Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET.

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