On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 14:18 -0600, David wrote: > OK, any idea how to get the menu to select not opt ions? I only got > it to bit into a grub menu once and it did flash something but it was > so fast I didn't even get to read anything in it.
On my OpenSUSE computer space bar will do it. > I believe that was by pressing del on the bios screen (gives options > to select boot drive, sys settings, sys info; while it displays the > motherboards logo) most of the mint resources say shift should give > that option but it doesn't do anything for me, and that I know I > haven't changed (especially because it's a fresh install and the only > option I've changed is to not lock the screen when it sleeps) > > On Oct 7, 2015 12:31 PM, "Eric Gunther" <egunt...@warwick.net> wrote: > On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 09:16 -0600, David wrote: > > the full name of the driver is > NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.41.run > > i did try the nvidia support and they were not very helpful, > they said > > i had to contact the actual card manufacturer (evga), who > said i had > > to contact nvidia.... i looked through some of the nvidia > forums and > > they didn't have anything that was helpful. > > it is mate display manager, although it is running in > cinnamon. i > > double checked because there were several others depending > on distro > > (lightdm, kdm) but mine does in fact have mdm by default. > > OK > > > ill look at virtual terminals for mate, would that have x > stopped > > though? > > I don't think it would have stopped X but uses another virtual > terminal. > > > all of my f keys (2-7) result in a blank screen, f8 will > switch back > > and forth from the blank screen (the others will not switch > back). i > > don't recall off the top of my head if there was anything > with the > > keys above f8 but nothing that seemed any different or i'm > sure i > > would remember. > > OK > > > graphics is one of the things that doesn't make sense to > me > > sometimes, so when it comes to things like framebuffer i'm > lost. if i > > know where to look to find out what it needs to be, and > where it needs > > to be changed to make that happen i can usually handle that. > anything > > more and i'm at a loss though. > > It is complicated. although as I mentioned before... > > > > http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/256.35/README/index.html > > this might be a place to look. > > > i also read that shift, esc, or del can gain access to boot > options > > while on the bios screen but the only thing i was able to > get (once, > > and not since then) was a grub> command line that i don't > know how to > > get around in. > > > > OK, Try what Thomas has said because he is far more > knowledgeable than > I: > > ---------------------------- > > Do not mess around with files in /boot! > > What you want to do is on the grub screen (where you can pick > the OS to > start) > a) stop the timer ;-) > b) select the Linux Mint entry > c) "[e]dit" it (this depends a bit on the grub setup, but > usually > there's either a selectable "button" or you just press "e" > d) append " 1" (nothing else) > e) (b)oot that command. > > This should really get you into runlevel 1, ie. a root > (text)shell > > Runlevel 1 is a boot directly into a rootshell (no GUI, no > network - but > you can start either by hand), 3 is the CLI login (which will > likely not > work because this very interesting distro doesn't seem to > install > a/getty) and 5 is the GUI login. > > I'd also say that you should rather seek advise in a Mint > forum, since > the problem seems to be specific to that distro. > > Thomas > > > ------------------------------ > > > Also sorry to clog up the list. > > > E > > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Eric Gunther > <egunt...@warwick.net> > > wrote: > > On Wed, 2015-10-07 at 07:08 -0600, David wrote: > > > I downloaded nvidia 352.41 and am keeping my > fingers crossed > > it'll > > > work last time I had to try several of the drivers > before I > > found one > > > that did the trick. I've tried ctrl-alt-f3 but it > just > > gives a blank > > > screen and alt-f3 doesn't seem to do anything, I > tried > > > ctrl-alt-backspace and it just returned me to the > login. > > You're > > > totally right about editing grub, it killed it and > I ended > > up fighting > > > with it to reinstall mint last night. I'm not > sure if > > there's some > > > other setting that's not working with the > ctrl-alt- > > commands. I've > > > read something's that say I may need to edit > default screen > > resolution > > > for it to be w able to display that but none of > them said > > anything > > > about what resolution or how to find a resolution > that works > > > Thanks > > > David > > > > > > > OK, just off the top of my head, did you wait a bit > after CTRL > > ALT F3, > > and try other ones too, in fact try them all and see > what you > > come up > > with. I see that you (with the command mdm) and > searching are > > running > > MATE? on mint? Is cinnamon a variation of the mate > desktop, > > where mdm > > might stand for Mate Desktop Manager. I know > little about > > either of > > these although, you may want to search for "virtual > terminals > > on mate" > > or "single user mode on mint" to get closer to what > you are > > looking for. > > > > I see that mint is based on debian and Ubuntu. You > might want > > to try > > help from either of those places as they have a > reputation for > > support. > > I can only guess that the resolution is about > framebuffer > > cases... where > > one can have graphics on the terminal, *I think*. > This may be > > necessary > > to use the CTRL ALT F3 command as I am confident > that OpenSUSE > > has such > > a setup. > > > > Also, nvidia has support as well. What is the > actual name of > > the driver > > that you downloaded though? For instance, > > > > NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-352.41.run > > > > > > E > > > > > > > On Oct 7, 2015 6:42 AM, "Eric Gunther" > > <egunt...@warwick.net> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2015-10-06 at 18:06 -0600, David > wrote: > > > > OK, so I guess this is a different way > of askinga > > question > > > I've been > > > > wrestling with for a few days now. I > need to > > install a > > > driver > > > > downloaded from nvidia, which when run > tells me to > > stop > > > xserver and > > > > try running again. I've tried several > commands > > but haven't > > > had any > > > > success this time. I installed the > driver once > > before with > > > the sudo > > > > service mdm stop command but this time > it also > > results in a > > > blank > > > > screen. > > > > > > > > > I have had success with sudo init 3, after > logging > > out --> ALT > > > F3 (or > > > any F key below 5) to get to a command > line in > > OpenSUSE. As > > > far as I > > > know, init 5 is X while init 6 is reboot. > Init 1,2,3 > > *I think* > > > are > > > appropriate for installing nvidia driver. > That is > > the ".run" > > > driver file. > > > Where one would issue the command "sudo sh > > > nvidia_driver_name.run" to run > > > it. > > > > > > The ALT F3 is to change virtual terminals > on the > > computer, > > > where the gui > > > inhabits 6 or 7 on this OpenSUSE machine > and a text > > line login > > > is on a few > > > of the others, while logging information > is on > > others yet. > > > There are 12 > > > Function keys. I think this can be > configured and > > so may be > > > specific to a > > > distribution. > > > > > > > > > > So my thought now is to find a way to > boot > > directly into a > > > command > > > > line without xserver starting in the > first place, > > I've read > > > that there > > > > are options to edit /boot/grub/grub.Cfg > and edit a > > line so > > > that it > > > > goes something like boot..... quiet > splash text. > > > > > > > > > Personally, I would not edit grub cfg to > do this. I > > have a a > > > lot of > > > missteps when I work on the computer and > that would > > cause undo > > > complication. I think that often there is > a ESC > > command or > > > F10 or > > > something while booting. I think you may > find this > > on the > > > nvidia site > > > (they have an extensive manual/reference > section for > > the CUDA > > > toolset at > > > least and I think that they often do have > good > > reference) > > > this may be a start: > > > > > > > > > > http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/256.35/README/index.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > The result of this was finally that I > had to use > > my > > > install disk to > > > > be able to get back into terminal so I > could > > revert the file > > > back to > > > > it's original setting. I've read that > there are > > ways to set > > > it to run > > > > at default 'run levels' 0-6 with some of > them > > running > > > without x > > > > loading, but I don't feel like I > understand at all > > where to > > > change > > > > that or which run levels do what. So > I'd really > > appreciate > > > it if > > > > anyone knows how and where to edit run > levels to > > boot > > > without x > > > > starting I'd really appreciate it, or > any other > > ways to stop > > > x and be > > > > able to install the driver. I still > have no > > internet so > > > anything that > > > > requires Internet access is out for me. > > > > Thanks for any advice > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think* that one can exit X with the key > > combination CTRL ALT > > > BACKSPACE, although I think this may be > disabled in > > some > > > distributions ... > > > or X just restarts at that point. > > > > > > Which Nvidia driver did you download? > Specifically > > which file > > > extension? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have a good day, > > > > > > E > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support > > > > Archives: > > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg > > > > Info: > http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg > > > > Your subscription address: > %(user_address)s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ xorg@lists.x.org: X.Org support Archives: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg Info: http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg Your subscription address: %(user_address)s