Sorry I ddin't watch my xml folder for a while ... a bit busy

On Sat, Oct 06, 2018 at 07:32:00PM +0300, Roumen Petrov wrote:
> Hi Nick,
> 
> Nick Wellnhofer wrote:
> > On 25/09/2018 14:36, Nick Wellnhofer wrote:
> > > The whole situation is a mess. I'd love to change the code so that
> > > non-ASCII chars are always encoded as UTF-8, but I'm scared to break
> > > things.
> 
> Long time ago I did some test with html -
> http://roumenpetrov.info/tests/charset/ .
> 
> The case is quite similar - encoding could be defined externally in HTTP
> header

  Except it usually doesn't work so tons of workarounds need to be applied.

> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO8859-5
> ...
> and in the same time in HTML header (internal)
> ...
> <html>
> <head>
> ....
>   <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-5">
> ....
> </head>
> ...
> If I remember well (10-15 ago) Internet Explorer prefer internal while other
> browsers prefer external encoding.

  yup it was a mess. I heard horror stories from various parties
implementing even XML support in browsers.

> 
> I create similar test to check what is situation with xml
> http://roumenpetrov.info/tests/charset/index-xml.html and dis some tests (
> ( browsers - Firefox, Opera, Chromium, Konqueror ).
> 
> The test show that all(1) browsers could read xml in following case :
> - HTTP header without charset, i.e. Content-Type: text/html;
> - XML prolog with encoding, i.e. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="...."?>
> 
> Without encoding in prolog only file in UTF-8 codeset could be read (no
> surprise).
> 
> Behavior of some browsers depend from file suffix . This is reason to test
> to use  .xml and .none suffixes.
> 
> Mix between charset and encoding fail as expected exept in case
> charset=iso8859-1 where some browsers show properly content.
> 
> 
> Based on tests I think that switch to UTF-8 encoded content by default is
> good to have encoding in prolog. It is less risky.
> 
> 
> > This is the change I have in mind:
> > 
> > https://github.com/nwellnhof/libxml2/commit/53551ec2f6a2ef03bfcfb6d73b6fd18dc70ba15d
> 
> Ok to remove "Special escaping routines" but patch shows that in regression
> tests prolog remains as "<?xmlversion="1.0"?>".
> I'm not sure that such code modification is save.
> 

  That kind of things can backfire *very* easilly.
What is the problem we are trying to solve.
Some people are likely to expect the behaviour of going back to codepoint
when no encoding is specified outside of the ascii range.

Daniel

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