On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Greg Julius wrote:

> I bought this system 12/24 and have never had X work properly.  Yes, I am a
> bit (understatement) frustrated.  I am sorry if it appears to be

I only think I saw it once -- but I didn't use to be on the xfree86 list
(I was on xperts).

> place.  I guess its just my frustration getting out of hand (someone said
> 30% of learning Linux is learning new ways to cuss).

;)

Tsk, tsk.  Kids these days.  You are *sooo* lucky.  We had to program by
moving magnets back and forth over the floppy disk.

> > > I have put in the 4.2.20 kernel - just fine now.  I installed the XFree86
>
> Yes, kernel, but I goofed with the #  it is 2.4.20.  Sorry,  The first
> instructions I received indicated I needed the 2.4.20 kernel so I started
> down that line.  See http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/845driver.html .

Thanks for the clarification.  I'll look at that in a minute.

> >what is the contents of your .xinitrc file?  Mine just says:
> >exec gnome-session
>
> I don't have an .xinitrc file.  (at least ' find . | grep xinitrc ' from /
> doesn't find it)

Then you should perhaps have one.

> I do have a /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file and it has a lot of stuff in
> it.  it does end with:
> # start some nice programs
>
> twm &
> xclock -geometry ... &
> xterm -geometry ... &
> xterm -geometry ... &
> exec xterm -geometry .... -name login
>
> Which I guess is the window manager.  What should I have and where should I
> have it?

Yes.  startx is a script that loads the X server and then the xinitc
file(s).

My configuration scripts look different from yours (I'm running Debian
3.0).  /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc contains:

#!/bin/sh
# $Xorg: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:30 cpqbld Exp $
# /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
#
# global xinitrc file, used by all X sessions started by xinit (startx)
# invoke global X session script
. /etc/X11/Xsession


/etc/X11/Xsession is a script that tries to load a session that was saved
from the last time the X server was run -- I'm not even sure it's used in
my case because I also have a .xinitrc in my home directory that contains
the exec gnome-session line I wrote earlier.

> >No, you shouldn't need to.  You don't describe above that you need to.
> >Can you say more about this?
>
> (Curses for thirty minutes before realizing you must have meant a
> description of what happens, not how I feel :)

Sorry.

<description snipped - will look at it>

> If I look at the log, I don't get any EE messages, and only (WW) VESA(0):
> Bad V_Bios checksum  (I seem to get it twice however).  Lots of -- ** II
> and == stuff.

Aha!  That's interesting, don't you think?

Can you send the whole log?  (as attachment or inline)
There might be yet another subtle hint in there somewhere.

> Well, that's what happens.  Any Ideas, hints, pointers, things to try?

I think you can piece the gnome environment back together now... I'll take
a look at the rest.

-Peter

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