From: Rich Persaud <pers...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 16 August 2019 at 16:49
To: George Dunlap <george.dun...@citrix.com>
Cc: Lars Kurth <lars.ku...@citrix.com>, xen-devel 
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Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [RFC] Code of Conduct

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Hi George,

Thanks for the detailed response.  Lars noted that the proposed Xen CoC is 
nearly identical to Contributor Covenant, which has been adopted by many 
organizations, including teams at Intel and Google.  My comment, from 
https://lists.gt.net/xen/devel/561686#561686

Without getting into the merits of Contributor Covenant, there is value in 
reusing an "upstream CoC" that has been vetted by many organizations and is 
being continually tested in the real world.


Similar to the "macro supply chain" topic:  if Xen Project must make changes to 
the upstream CoC, these can be done as a logical patch (rather than an orphaned 
fork) so we can incorporate upstream improvements.  The rationale for each diff 
against the upstream CoC can be in a revision-controlled doc, so that future 
CoC maintainers understand the reasoning behind each diff, as communities and 
contributors evolve.

Your discussion above clearly covers differences between Contributor Covenant 
and Xen's CoC, and could be translated to text suitable for commit messages, 
with one commit per diff from an upstream CoC.

Rich

This is not really productive. I was looking for concrete feedback, but we 
ended up with a long discussion with no actionable items that can help resolve 
the discussion.

How about the following:

  *   Make a proposal based on the Contributor Covenant
  *   Try and address some of the key customizations which I have been trying 
to make (which George outlined nicely)

This shouldn’t take much longer than the time you, George and I spent on this 
email thread already. You can follow the methodology you propose

We can then compare the output and decide which one to go for

Lars
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