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From: Weber (US), Matthew L Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2025 10:16 AM To: Halder, Ayan Kumar <ayan.kumar.hal...@amd.com>; Stabellini, Stefano <stefano.stabell...@amd.com>; Orzel, Michal <michal.or...@amd.com>; Andryuk, Jason <jason.andr...@amd.com>; Garcia Vallejo, Alejandro <alejandro.garciavall...@amd.com> Subject: RE: Xen FuSa Upstream meeting Thanks Ayan, I think our DO-178 ARINC cert use case is very simple with a dom0less configuration that doesn't need most/any traditional toolstack provided functions. We need a thin layer on the hypercall interface (dom health management stuff, scheduler control) and some pre-population of data in the device trees for domU(s) that expresses static attributes of the domain which usually would have come through xenstore. Otherwise everything else is static shared memory. Regards, Matt From: Halder, Ayan Kumar <ayan.kumar.hal...@amd.com<mailto:ayan.kumar.hal...@amd.com>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2025 2:49 AM To: Weber (US), Matthew L <matthew.l.web...@boeing.com<mailto:matthew.l.web...@boeing.com>>; Stabellini, Stefano <stefano.stabell...@amd.com<mailto:stefano.stabell...@amd.com>>; Orzel, Michal <michal.or...@amd.com<mailto:michal.or...@amd.com>>; Andryuk, Jason <jason.andr...@amd.com<mailto:jason.andr...@amd.com>>; Garcia Vallejo, Alejandro <alejandro.garciavall...@amd.com<mailto:alejandro.garciavall...@amd.com>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Xen FuSa Upstream meeting EXT email: be mindful of links/attachments. [AMD Official Use Only - AMD Internal Distribution Only] Hi Matthew/Stefano, Apologies for missing this. Michal has summed up the issue as follows :- Toolstack is out of scope for safety certification. This is mostly because large part of the toolstack exist to create/destroy or handle in general runtime domains. That said there are services like xenstore that may be required e.g. for PV drivers (Xenbus and Xenstore are needed here). With the introduction of split domain capabilities e.g. separate control, hardware, xenstore domains it may be challenging at first to boot hardware or xenstore domain with toolstack. This is because the toolstack has a lot of cross dependencies with libraries relying on e.g. control capability. It's not really possible today to carve out unneeded stuff from the toolstack to only provide e.g. Xenstored. We need to have a discussion to understand what approach we should take. Michal, Jason, Stefano, Alejandro should be present. Do we need Julien and any other maintainer (Jan) ? I will be away next week. Stefano can bring up this topic and record the discussion. Kind regards, Ayan From: Weber (US), Matthew L <matthew.l.web...@boeing.com<mailto:matthew.l.web...@boeing.com>> Date: Tuesday, 15 July 2025 at 02:15 To: Halder, Ayan Kumar <ayan.kumar.hal...@amd.com<mailto:ayan.kumar.hal...@amd.com>> Subject: RE: Xen FuSa Upstream meeting Do you take agenda topics for this call? I wondered about getting feedback on these two topics. https://old-list-archives.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2025-07/msg00531.html https://old-list-archives.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2025-07/msg00564.html Best Regards, - Matthew L. Weber Associate Technical Fellow / ELISA Aerospace WG Chair LinkedIn<https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-weber-a171527/> | GitHub<https://github.com/matthew-l-weber> | GitLab<https://gitlab.com/matthewlweber> | LXF Open Profile<https://openprofile.dev/profile/matthew.l.weber> [cid:image001.gif@01DBF577.11C2E420] -----Original Appointment----- From: Halder, Ayan Kumar <ayan.kumar.hal...@amd.com<mailto:ayan.kumar.hal...@amd.com>> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2025 7:15 AM To: Halder, Ayan Kumar; Weber (US), Matthew L; artem_myga...@epam.com<mailto:artem_myga...@epam.com>; francesco.ro...@resiltech.com<mailto:francesco.ro...@resiltech.com>; Aniket Saha; Mukhin, Denis (D.); NETCHITALIOUK, ANDREI (A.); Kate Stewart; David Ward; Rafał Misiura; marco.d...@resiltech.com<mailto:marco.d...@resiltech.com>; Bertrand Marquis; hisao.munakata...@renesas.com<mailto:hisao.munakata...@renesas.com>; Kim, Haesun; Ahn, Sookyung; roberto.bagn...@bugseng.com<mailto:roberto.bagn...@bugseng.com>; Paweł Kaleta; stefano.dell...@intel.com<mailto:stefano.dell...@intel.com>; Ragiadakou, Xenia; Hildebrand, Stewart; Orzel, Michal; fusa-...@lists.xenproject.org<mailto:fusa-...@lists.xenproject.org> Cc: Luca Fancellu; francesco.branc...@resiltech.com<mailto:francesco.branc...@resiltech.com>; Alex Agizim; Rahul Singh; Robert Heinen; Stabellini, Stefano; Chan King Choy, Nathalie; Lira, Victor M; Iglesias, Edgar; Andryuk, Jason; Miccio, Luca; Rafał Tomaszewski; Andrei Buzdugan; Eugene Nebrat; Piotr Serwa Subject: FW: Xen FuSa Upstream meeting When: Tuesday, July 22, 2025 3:00 PM-4:00 PM (UTC+00:00) Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London. Where: https://amd.zoom.us/j/92115684076?pwd=sKEw5EfYN6KcYhz15mbftYqAyaRm8R.1&from=addon EXT email: be mindful of links/attachments. From: ayan.kumar.hal...@amd.com<mailto:ayan.kumar.hal...@amd.com> When: 15:00 - 16:00 21 January 2025 Subject: Xen FuSa Upstream meeting Location: https://amd.zoom.us/j/92115684076?pwd=sKEw5EfYN6KcYhz15mbftYqAyaRm8R.1&from=addon Hi , This is our regular meeting series. Ayan [Image removed by sender.]<https://zoom.com/> Hi there, Ayan Kumar Halder is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. 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