Hi Juergen,

On 11/03/2025 09:40, Jürgen Groß wrote:
On 11.03.25 10:21, Julien Grall wrote:
Hi Juergen,

On 11/03/2025 07:31, Juergen Gross wrote:
In docs/misc/xenstore.txt all Xenstore commands are specified, but
the specifications lack the numerical values of the commands.

Add a table with all commands, their values, and a potential remark
(e.g. whether the command is optional).

Reported-by: Jan Beulich <jbeul...@suse.com>
Signed-off-by: Juergen Gross <jgr...@suse.com>
---
V2:
- replace "ŕ" with plain "r" (Jan Beulich)
- replace hard tabs with blanks (Jan Beulich)
- allow GET_FEATURES and GET_QUOTA support without SET_* (Jan Beulich)
---
  docs/misc/xenstore.txt | 57 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
  1 file changed, 57 insertions(+)

diff --git a/docs/misc/xenstore.txt b/docs/misc/xenstore.txt
index 7e1f031520..8b4b790e11 100644
--- a/docs/misc/xenstore.txt
+++ b/docs/misc/xenstore.txt
@@ -86,6 +86,63 @@ parts of xenstore inaccessible to some clients. In any case passing
  bulk data through xenstore is not recommended as the performance
  properties are poor.
+---------- Defined Xenstore message types ----------
+
+Below is a table with all defined Xenstore message types (type name
+and its associated numerical value).
+
+Some types are optional to be supported by a specific Xenstore
+implementation.  If an optional type is not supported by a Xenstore
+implementation, Xen tools will continue to work, maybe with slightly
+reduced functionality.  A mandatory type not being supported will
+result in severely reduced functionality, like inability to create
+domains.  In case a type is optional, this is stated in the table with
+the lost functionality in case Xenstore doesn't support that type.
+
+XS_CONTROL               0    optional
+    If not supported, xenstore-control command will not work.

Are we documenting anywhere how a user could figure out if the command is not supported? Is it a specific error code?

I can add that not supported commands will return "ENOSYS" as an error
response.

Yes please.



+    XS_DEBUG is a deprecated alias of XS_CONTROL.
 > +XS_DIRECTORY             1> +XS_READ                  2
+XS_GET_PERMS             3
+XS_WATCH                 4
+XS_UNWATCH               5
+XS_TRANSACTION_START     6
+XS_TRANSACTION_END       7
+XS_INTRODUCE             8
+XS_RELEASE               9
+XS_GET_DOMAIN_PATH      10
+XS_WRITE                11
+XS_MKDIR                12
+XS_RM                   13
+XS_SET_PERMS            14
+XS_WATCH_EVENT          15
+    Not valid in client sent messages.
+    Only valid in Xenstore replies.
+XS_ERROR                16
+    Not valid in client sent messages.
+    Only valid in Xenstore replies.
+XS_IS_DOMAIN_INTRODUCED 17
+XS_RESUME               18
+XS_SET_TARGET           19
+XS_RESTRICT             20    no longer supported
+    XS_RESTRICT has been removed, the type value 20 is invalid.
+XS_RESET_WATCHES        21
+XS_DIRECTORY_PART       22    optional
+    If not supported, the output of xenstore-ls might be incomplete
+    with more than ca. 1000 domains active.

Why are we making this specific to number of domains? Wouldn't the problem be the same if you have 1000 node within a parent node?

Let me reiterate the answer I gave to Jan when he asked:
> >    And elsewhere there can't be very many nodes resulting in a similar
   situation?
> > Not without someone trying to force this by will (only possible by a
root user of dom0, e.g. via creating lots of nodes in the same directory
via "xenstore-write").

That's assuming the admin has not changed the default quotas, right?


Having lots of domains is an "easy" way to create this scenario via
perfectly valid and sensible operations.
> >
I can rephrase the remark like this:

     If not supported, the output of xenstore-ls might be incomplete
     with a node's sub-node list exceeding the maximum payload size
     (e.g. the "/local/domain" node with more than ca. 1000 domains
     active).


That would be better. It doesn't tie the problem to the default quotas.

Cheers,

--
Julien Grall


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