On 14.08.2024 14:49, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 12/08/2024 3:05 pm, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 12.08.2024 15:04, Andrew Cooper wrote:
>>> On 05/08/2024 2:26 pm, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> --- a/xen/arch/x86/x86_emulate/x86_emulate.c
>>>> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/x86_emulate/x86_emulate.c
>>>> @@ -839,7 +839,8 @@ protmode_load_seg(
>>>>          case x86_seg_tr:
>>>>              goto raise_exn;
>>>>          }
>>>> -        if ( !_amd_like(cp) || vcpu_has_nscb() || !ops->read_segment ||
>>>> +        if ( seg == x86_seg_none || !_amd_like(cp) || vcpu_has_nscb() ||
>>>> +             !ops->read_segment ||
>>>>               ops->read_segment(seg, sreg, ctxt) != X86EMUL_OKAY )
>>>>              memset(sreg, 0, sizeof(*sreg));
>>>>          else
>>> While this fixes the crash, I'm not sure it will behave correctly for
>>> VERR/VERW.
>>>
>>> protmode_load_seg() is unconditionally X86EMUL_OKAY for a NULL selector,
>>> and VERW checks for type != 0x8 which an empty attr will pass.
>> That's past an sreg.s check, which will have failed (for sreg coming back
>> all clear).
> 
> Oh, so it is.
> 
> Any chance I could talk you into folding this hunk in too?
> 
> diff --git a/xen/arch/x86/x86_emulate/x86_emulate.c
> b/xen/arch/x86/x86_emulate/x86_emulate.c
> index 902538267051..d4d02c3e2eb3 100644
> --- a/xen/arch/x86/x86_emulate/x86_emulate.c
> +++ b/xen/arch/x86/x86_emulate/x86_emulate.c
> @@ -2852,7 +2852,7 @@ x86_emulate(
>                                              &sreg, ctxt, ops) )
>              {
>              case X86EMUL_OKAY:
> -                if ( sreg.s &&
> +                if ( sreg.s /* Excludes NULL selector too */ &&
>                       ((modrm_reg & 1) ? ((sreg.type & 0xa) == 0x2)
>                                        : ((sreg.type & 0xa) != 0x8)) )
>                      _regs.eflags |= X86_EFLAGS_ZF;
> 
> 
> because it is relevant to judging whether the subsequent logic is
> correct or not.

No problem at all. Am I okay to commit then, with Stefano's R-b?

>> Also if there was a concern here, it would be orthogonal to the adding of
>> the seg_none check: It would then have been similarly an issue for all
>> possibilities of taking the memset() path.
>>
>>> Interestingly, both Intel and AMD state that the NULL selector is
>>> neither readable nor writeable.
>> Which makes sense, doesn't it? A nul selector is really more like a
>> system segment in this regard (for VERR/VERW).
> 
> In the 32bit days, yes, the NULL selector was entirely unusable, but
> that changed in 64bit.
> 
> So IMO it really depends on whether VERR/VERW means "can I use this
> selector for $X", or "what does the GDT/LDT say about $X".
> 
> AMD say "Verifies whether a code or data segment specified by the
> segment selector in the 16-bit register or memory operand is readable
> from the current privilege level."
> 
> Intel say "Verifies whether the code or data segment specified with the
> source operand is readable (VERR) or writable[sic] (VERW) from the
> current privilege level (CPL)."
> 
> So that's clearly the former meaning rather than the latter meaning.

Not really. There's no "code or data segment" specified with a nul
selector. The use of GDT/LDT is implicit in this wording, but imo
it is there.

>>> Also, looking at the emulator logic, we're missing the DPL vs
>>> CPL/RPL/Conforming checks.
>> There's surely nothing "conforming" for a nul selector. Hence perhaps you
>> refer to something entirely unrelated?
> 
> Sorry, yes.  I think this is a general bug in how we emulate VERW/VERR,
> unrelated to this specific OSS-fuzz report.

I'll check that later and reply separately (here or with a patch).

Jan

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