Hi all,

As we haven't yet reached a consensus, let's see what the informal vote
looks like in the community by the end of the week.
Since the scope and context have changed slightly, anonymous voting is
permitted and I will be counting all votes made after Dec 4th. Please only
vote once.

Should you wish to change your answer you can do so using this link:
https://cryptpad.fr/form/#/2/form/view/7ByH95Vd7KiDOvN4wjV5iUGlMuZbkVdwk7cYpZdluWo/

Many thanks,
Kelly Choi

Community Manager
Xen Project


On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 11:51 PM Stefano Stabellini <sstabell...@kernel.org>
wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Dec 2023, George Dunlap wrote:
> > And how do we give people practical options to respond to a maintainer
> > who they think is being "picky"
>
> If a maintainer is too picky the contributor and the other maintainers
> should say that the patch is good enough in their view. If the
> maintainers disagree (on that topic or another) the new informal voting
> rule should help us move forward faster.
>
> The informal voting would have helped us move forward faster in the
> original thread.
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2023, George Dunlap wrote:
> > the chance of a vote of the committers being out of sync with the
> > community is fairly small. But of course, small is not impossible.
> > [...] Hence the community-wide survey.
>
> Yes. If someone cares about the outcome, and they are not happy with the
> informal vote, then they need to call for a formal vote.
>
> But maintainers/committers might not always be the right people to
> escalate the voting to.
>
> Yes committers' opinions should count, but certain things have more to
> do with our users and the way they understand our documentation than
> implementation correctness. For these things, our users' opinions should
> count as much as ours.
>
> So I can see that in those cases, if someone is not happy with the
> informal vote, the best next step would be a community-wide survey like
> Kelly did here. That's a good idea.
>
> I don't think that's written anywhere in our governance specifically,
> but I think it would be a good addition.
>

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