Hi all, As we haven't yet reached a consensus, let's see what the informal vote looks like in the community by the end of the week. Since the scope and context have changed slightly, anonymous voting is permitted and I will be counting all votes made after Dec 4th. Please only vote once.
Should you wish to change your answer you can do so using this link: https://cryptpad.fr/form/#/2/form/view/7ByH95Vd7KiDOvN4wjV5iUGlMuZbkVdwk7cYpZdluWo/ Many thanks, Kelly Choi Community Manager Xen Project On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 11:51 PM Stefano Stabellini <sstabell...@kernel.org> wrote: > On Mon, 4 Dec 2023, George Dunlap wrote: > > And how do we give people practical options to respond to a maintainer > > who they think is being "picky" > > If a maintainer is too picky the contributor and the other maintainers > should say that the patch is good enough in their view. If the > maintainers disagree (on that topic or another) the new informal voting > rule should help us move forward faster. > > The informal voting would have helped us move forward faster in the > original thread. > > > On Mon, 4 Dec 2023, George Dunlap wrote: > > the chance of a vote of the committers being out of sync with the > > community is fairly small. But of course, small is not impossible. > > [...] Hence the community-wide survey. > > Yes. If someone cares about the outcome, and they are not happy with the > informal vote, then they need to call for a formal vote. > > But maintainers/committers might not always be the right people to > escalate the voting to. > > Yes committers' opinions should count, but certain things have more to > do with our users and the way they understand our documentation than > implementation correctness. For these things, our users' opinions should > count as much as ours. > > So I can see that in those cases, if someone is not happy with the > informal vote, the best next step would be a community-wide survey like > Kelly did here. That's a good idea. > > I don't think that's written anywhere in our governance specifically, > but I think it would be a good addition. >