On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Ian Campbell <ian.campb...@citrix.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 2015-03-12 at 14:52 +0000, Julien Grall wrote:
> > On 12/03/15 14:13, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Julien Grall <julien.gr...@linaro.org
> > > <mailto:julien.gr...@linaro.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Hi Tamas,
> > >
> > >     On 06/03/15 21:24, Tamas K Lengyel wrote:
> > >     > +/*
> > >     > + * If mem_access is in use it might have been the reason why
> get_page_from_gva
> > >     > + * failed to fetch the page, as it uses the MMU for the
> permission checking.
> > >     > + * Only in these cases we do a software-based type check and
> fetch the page if
> > >     > + * we indeed found a conflicting mem_access setting.
> > >     > + */
> > >     > +static int check_type_get_page(vaddr_t gva, unsigned long flag,
> > >     > +                               struct page_info** page)
> > >     > +{
> > >     > +    long rc;
> > >     > +    paddr_t ipa;
> > >     > +    unsigned long maddr;
> > >     > +    unsigned long mfn;
> > >     > +    xenmem_access_t xma;
> > >     > +    p2m_type_t t;
> > >     > +
> > >     > +    rc = gva_to_ipa(gva, &ipa);
> > >
> > >     I though a bit more about this call.
> > >
> > >     gva_to_ipa only checks if the mapping has read-permission. That
> would
> > >     allow a guest to write on read-only mapping.
> > >
> > >
> > >     You have to pass the flags to gva_to_ipa in order to avoid
> > >     re-introducing XSA-98 [1]
> > >
> > >
> > > Here I really just care if the mapping exist to see if we have a
> > > mem_access restriction, r/w permission checking is then performed
> > > afterwards by checking the page type. If there are additional
> > > restrictions on the page beside the type, those certainly should be
> > > added. Can you point me to where that additional restriction is stored
> > > so I can query for it?
> >
> > The R/W permission checking done afterwards is not enough.
> >
> > What does get_page_from_gva is:
> >       1) Check the permission on Stage 1 page table (controlled by the
> guest
> > and translate VA -> IPA)
> >       2) Check the permission on Stage 2 page table (controlled by the
> > hypervisor and translate IPA -> PA).
> >
> > get_page_from_gva may fail because of 1), which is not related to
> memaccess.
> >
> > Currently, check_type_get_page emulate only the check for 2). So you may
> > end up to allow Xen writing in read-only mapping (from the Stage 1 POV).
> > This was XSA-98.
>
> XSA-98 was purely about stage-2 permissions (e.g. read-only grants). The
> fact that the resulting patch also checks stage-1 permissions is not a
> security property AFAICT.
>
> Ian.
>

We could check stage-1 permissions by walking the guest page tables and
looking at the pte permissions, however I'm not aware of having this
function implemented within Xen. I have it implemented in LibVMI (
https://github.com/libvmi/libvmi/blob/master/libvmi/arch/arm_aarch32.c#L81)
so I could potentially port it if necessary. However, since the in-guest
permissions are in control of the guest to begin with, I don't see any
added security benefit in doing so.

Tamas
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