Kurosu a écrit :
> Pending any investigation on how westnoth/xmoto/... does, here's my reply.
>
> Matthieu Fertré a écrit :
>   
>>> - Identifier (version number, CRC?) to differentiate versions or maps
>>>       
>> I guess that in case of version number, the identifier would be the
>> couple Name-version number.
>>     
>
> Yes, otherwise, indeed, there would be duplicated identifiers.
>
>   
>>> - Author (optional, only small hint as to if the map is any good)
>>> - Jpeg thumbnail (the one already available)
>>> - Compressed (downloaded) and decompressed sizes (worth it?)
>>>   
>>>       
>> Should we really means those information ?
>>     
>
> The 3 above? I think the jpeg thumbnail is really important: how to pick 
> up a map otherwise?
>
> Compressed/raw sizes are mostly for low bandwidth connections: for many 
> people, a 2s or 10s download doesn't make much of a difference.
>   

I was only talking about the sizes, but you're right.

>   
>> Ok for the URL. We are ok that maps will be either downloadable from
>> gna.org or wormux.org ? Should we accept maps from another place (not
>> urgent question to answer ;)).
>>     
>
> I think that this would leave us open to unforeseen exploits. We could 
> allow to specify additional urls where to get lists, but then the user 
> should be made aware of the risks (security, rudeness, ...), and this is 
> overall burdensome.
>
> But as you say, at least we need it to work for a gna/wormux endorsed place.
>
>   
>> Finally, I would choose a md5 hash from the zip file to identify the
>> map. Thus, all the xml file could be generated from a script without
>> manual intervention :)
>>     
>
> Good idea. Do we have a MD5 calculation tool inside of wormux (or its 
> relevant libs, like curl)? Can be implemented otherwise
>   

No, we don't have it.

>   
>>> In addition, what about future:
>>> - minimal version to understand the xml file?
>>> - minimal version to play the map?
>>>       
>> Well, I think something like "compatible versions" is enough. "Minimal"
>> is not always good as some things may become deprecated.
>>     
>
> "compatible" sounds like a list should be provided, which is a bit 
> bothersome. I was more thinking of an internal revision name (like 
> format v10) for easy verification: can't handle this xml/can't handle 
> this map because my internal version is below what's written
>   

Ok, that's ok for me
>   
>>> 2) Display:
>>> img|name|author|version|"new"/"updated"/no img|compressed size|raw size
>>>       
>> What do you mean by "no img" ? "updated" since when ?
>>     
>
> The column where this appears is either empty, with an image with "new" 
> within when the map is "new", same for "updated".
>
> Let's consider we already have a list (empty, or from a previously 
> downloaded xml), named "old", and a new one, called "current". What I 
> mean is:
> - a "new" map is one which name was not present in the "old" list, and 
> is in the "new" one
> - a "updated" map is one which name is present in both, but with 
> different identifiers in each of the 2
>
> There would also be the need of "removed" image: a map might be removed 
> (because of a copyright violation or any other kind of valid complaint) 
> from the website but still present on the computer. This is starting to 
> be very precise, because one could consider that the reason of the 
> removal should be mentioned then.
>
>   
>> What do you mean by "delete map(s)" ? Delete a map that has been
>> previously downloaded ?
>>
>> If so, there must be a read-only checkbox indicating if the map has been
>> previously downloaded.
>>     
>
> Indeed, I had forgotten to put it in the mockup.
>
> In addition (but not as an alternative), the "remove" button could be 
> hidden/made inactive for already downloaded maps.
>
>   
>>> - Hitting "refresh list"
>>>   . Fetches list from 1), and update listbox from 2) (what about 
>>> displaying "new" and "updated" about maps?)
>>>       
>> We can imagine sorting by this attribute or use a different background
>> color.
>>     
>
> What do you mean? Sorting by "new"/"updated"? What would the different 
> background conveys? The "new"/"updated" status (instead of an image)? 
> The "has been downloaded in this session"?
>   

Yes, that was all of that

>   
>>>   . One or several maps at a time? does listbox allow this?
>>>       
>> Yes, listbox allows this :) It was designed to select teams at the
>> beginning :)
>>     
>
> Perfect, because it could become burdensome in some occasion.
>
>   
>>>   . Downloads and unpack to a temporary folder:
>>>     - wormux personal dir vs TEMP: security issues
>>>       
>> I vote for wormux personal dir
>>     
>
> I guess using the MD5 to validate the download (this is http/tcp, I 
> know) is sufficient for one part. Then for the conformance validation, 
> maybe it's up to the game engine, and doesn't belong here, but this was 
> another reason for the TEMP folder.
>   

To my mind, the validation must firstly be done by our team, as for the
current bonus map pack ;)

> My problem with "personal" folder is that it is, well, personal, and may 
> not benefit every user. 

Yes, but this is inherent of operations that are not be done by an
administrator.

> OK, on that point, probably nobody has 2 users 
> on a computer using wormux. :)
>
> I now see there is a problem under windows: the chat logs, personal 
> teams and maps folders are the same as the "config" folder. This is a 
> problem because the later is in a hidden (yet endorsed in the windows 
> way of storing user application config) folder. 

Under Unix, Wormux follows freedesktop draft and uses
~/.local/share/wormux/ that is a hidden folder too.

> Maybe a more accessible 
> folder (like "Documents") should be used instead => need to perform 
> migration.
>   

I don't think user want a "wormux" directory in his home directory. The
only problem I see is uninstallation. In that case, when uninstalling
wormux under windows, you can propose to empty to remove all those data
for all users.

> Regards,
> Kurosu
>   

Regards,

Matt (gentildemon)

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