Yes, my installer uses a bundle because I have .NET Framework 4.5.1 and
Visual C++ 12 runtime components as a prerequisite before running my actual
product MSI.

I haven't actually tried if the upgrade failure also repros using the
product MSI only instead of the bundle, I'll try that out today. Maybe it's
actually something about upgrading a bundle that causes the failure to
happen.

In terms of what do we know, I don't think we know anything, we have yet to
find anything common between the failing installers. It seems to fail for
both per-user and per-machine installs, domain as well as workgroup user
accounts, elevated and non-elevated privileges, none of that seems to
matter.

// Sascha



On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:48 AM, <keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca> wrote:

> Let me echo John here, I am trying to help us and also help the community.
> We are worse off, too, than some, because the machines I deal with are
> mostly-disconnected remotes which receive the vast majority of their tech
> support via RDP if at all. It seems that most of the hypotheses around are
> wrong, unless we're just unlucky.
>
> Sascha: I have yet to try your stuff out. I know already now that you are
> dealing with MSIs in a bundle (correct?), which we don't do - we use
> bundles to use Windows Update files (MSUs) only, at present. All the rest
> of our stuff is just MSI. (Or rarely - testing only, I think, MSP.) So
> there's a difference right off.
>
> I wonder (list owners willing) if it is time to play "what do we know?"
>
>
> Keith Douglas
> Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca
> Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589
> Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-4674
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com]
> Sent: September-08-14 2:41 PM
> To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create
> the default key container
>
> I am sure that Microsoft will ultimately have to make a fix, but I have a
> lot of installers out in the wild, and I feel very exposed when none of my
> testers can replicate.  I'm much more interested in understanding the
> mechanism of failure--especially since I can't currently replicate.
>
> Also, it is very hard to justify to management invoking our support
> agreement when the issue does not reproduce with any of our product
> installers.  Much easier if I can replicate.
>
> I'm basically trying to figure out what is different in our installers and
> deployment scenarios such that we don't see this issue.
>
> --
> John Merryweather Cooper
> Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications | Continuing
> Development Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.® | Lenexa, KS  66214 | Ext:
> 431050 |jocoo...@jackhenry.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sascha Sertel [mailto:sascha.ser...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 1:29 PM
> To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not create
> the default key container
>
> The issue is very easily reproducible for me when doing an upgrade from
> one bundle to another one. I emailed Keith links to two installers that
> have 100% repro for me when upgrading from the one to the other while having
> KB2918614 installed. Repros on any machine.
>
> I'm happy to share some logs but given that KB2918614 directly determines
> whether the upgrade fails or works I don't know if there is anything that
> can be done to fix this from our end, it seems to me like Microsoft needs
> to reissue the hotfix or have another hotfix that fixes the broken one.
>
> // Sascha
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 9:44 AM, John Cooper <jocoo...@jackhenry.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I haven't been able to reproduce this using signed or unsigned MSIs
> > deploying in an "Open" or "Closed" Environment.
> >
> > I would be very happy to take a look at some verbose logs of the
> failures.
> >
> > --
> > John Merryweather Cooper
> > Senior Software Engineer | Enterprise Service Applications |
> > Continuing Development Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.® | Lenexa, KS
> > 66214 | Ext:  431050 | jocoo...@jackhenry.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca [mailto:keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca]
> > Sent: Monday, September 8, 2014 10:40 AM
> > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not
> > create the default key container
> >
> > I've now tried a "small update". I've never fully understood why you’d
> > use these, but my co-workers wanted to use MSPs for some of our
> > updating, so I built a front end for making those and hence small
> > updates. That all to say that I may be doing something unusual or
> > "wrong" with them. However, that disclaimer aside, I cannot reproduce
> any trouble with that either.
> >
> >
> > Keith Douglas
> > Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> > Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A
> > 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589
> > Facsimile
> > | Télécopieur 613-951-4674 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du
> > | Canada
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca [mailto:keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca]
> > Sent: September-08-14 8:41 AM
> > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not
> > create the default key container
> >
> > Ah! There seems to be some confusion on this point. I will see.
> >
> >
> > Keith Douglas
> > Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6
> > Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A
> > 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-854-5589
> > Facsimile
> > | Télécopieur 613-951-4674 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du
> > | Canada
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nicolás Alvarez [mailto:nicolas.alva...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: September-06-14 1:27 PM
> > To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] SECREPAIR: CryptAcquireContext: Could not
> > create the default key container
> >
> > 2014-09-05 17:15 GMT-03:00  <keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca>:
> > > I've gotten hold of a Windows 7 x64 VM and tried installing,
> > uninstalling, repairing a few dinky products we have built installers
> > for over the last while. Even added a new one with a large (100
> > megabytes
> > uncompressed) payload. Tried with and without UAC for all. No troubles
> > at all with the trouble KB installed. User was a domain account, for
> > what that is worth.
> >
> > Well, previous messages indicate the problem is with minor updates.
> > Did you try updates, or only install/uninstall/repair?
> >
> > --
> > Nicolás
> >
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