It shouldn't, especially if the target is properly annotated with Inputs and Outputs attributes. I use it extensively both in wixproj's and generally in "ordinary" *proj's including sqlproj.
And I always verify I can build both from VS and from the command line. "If you can't build from the command line, you can't build at all." --jmc -- John Merryweather Cooper Build & Install Engineer – ESA Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.® Shawnee Mission, KS 66227 Office: 913-341-3434 x791011 jocoo...@jackhenry.com www.jackhenry.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony [mailto:yellowjacketl...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 11:51 AM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Build order problems Votive vs MSBuild Interesting, I wonder if BeforeBuild has the same (apparent, yet to be confirmed) issue a PreBuild? I'll go read upon the two actions. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 10:42 AM, John Cooper <jocoo...@jackhenry.com> wrote: > In my experience, using the BeforeBuild/AfterBuild targets explicitly > is always a better choice than PreBuild or PostBuild. The only > advantage of PreBuild/PostBuild is you don't need to know any MSBuild > syntax. That's also the main disadvantage. > > -- > John Merryweather Cooper > Build & Install Engineer - ESA > Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.® > Shawnee Mission, KS 66227 > Office: 913-341-3434 x791011 > jocoo...@jackhenry.com > www.jackhenry.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony [mailto:yellowjacketl...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:32 AM > To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Build order problems Votive vs MSBuild > > I know this conversation is a bit old, but I figured out the real issue. > And it is worth sharing in case others run into a similar problem. > > It appeared as though we had a build order issue with our wix projects > as described elsewhere in this thread (works in VS, but fails with MSBuild). > I "fixed" the issue as described below. However, this proved to just > be a Band-Aid and/or we just "got lucky". > > Recently I made changes to another wixlib project to reference two new > C# projects and the mysterious "build order" (fails with MSBuild, not > in VS) manifested itself again. WTF? > > After carefully combing through the build output, I _think_ I know > what is causing this issue. It is the "Pre-Build Events". When > MSBuild "builds" a project it executes the Pre-Build Events _before_ > it evaluates the project's dependencies (which, if not built already, > will trigger dependent projects to get built). In our case, our > pre-build events on our wix projects were used to run Paraffin to > auto-generate wxs files for our websites and sign the website's > binaries. This would fail because the website itself had not been > built yet because MSBuild had not reach the point in which it would trigger > the build of dependent projects. > > This issue does not happen with VS builds as VS doesn't use MSBuild to > evaluate project dependencies as described in the link elsewhere in > this thread. So, in our case VS builds the website prior to building > the wixlib that executes the Pre-Build Paraffin and the wixlib project > builds without issue. > > I'm not sure how I'll fix this issue long-term. But it goes without > saying that I look forward to WiX 4.0's ability to leverage the now > defunct "Harvest" option on project references.<g> > > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Tony <yellowjacketl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Follow-up.... > > > > Our old VS2012 solution was organized like this... > > > > A.vsxproj (C++) > > B.csproj (C#) > > C.csproj (C#) > > W.wixproj (WiX) > > > > Where project-B had a SOLUTION dependency on the C++ project-A. And > > the WiX project has project dependencies on both project-B and > > project-C. When built via VS2012, the solution build order would be > > A, > B, C, W. > > However, when MSBuild built this solution, the build order A, C, W, B. > > As expected, building project-W would fail because project-B's > > output was nowhere to be found. > > > > I followed the instructions in the link Rob provided and removed the > > SOLUTION dependency between project-B and project-A. Instead, I > > manually edited project-B's csproj file to add a PROJECT dependency > > to project-A > > (VS2012 won't let you add a C++ as a project reference to a C# project). > > After reloading project-B, I now see project-A in project-B's > > References list. Though, depending on VS2012 mood at the time, it > > may or may not have a little yellow triangle next to project-A's entry. > > > > Now via both VS2012 and MSBuild, the build order is A, B, C, W. > > > > I still don't quite understand why the changes make it work, but I'm > > glad it does.<g> > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Rob Mensching <r...@firegiant.com> > wrote: > > > >> Sounds a lot like: > >> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/msbuild/archive/2010/12/21/incorrect-soluti > >> on -build-ordering-when-using-msbuild-exe.aspx > >> > >> _______________________________________________________________ > >> FireGiant | Dedicated support for the WiX toolset | > >> http://www.firegiant.com/ > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Tony [mailto:yellowjacketl...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:56 PM > >> To: WiX Users > >> Subject: [WiX-users] Build order problems Votive vs MSBuild > >> > >> We've run into this issue in which it appears as though our .sln > >> builds correctly when built through VS (Votive installed), but when > >> built using MSBuild, the WiX project dependencies appear to be > >> ignored. This results in a build order problem (csproj is built > >> _after_ wixproj that needs its output). If the build order is > >> forced (manually add a dependency in the sln file), the MSBuild > >> build works fine. As such, it appears as if MSBuild is used on the > >> .sln, the auto generated project dependency list (and thus build > >> order) is not > correct. > >> > >> NOTE: We do NOT have WiX installed on our build server. I have > >> modified our wixproj files per > >> http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/msbuild/daily_builds. > >> html > . > >> > >> I found an old thread titled "Problem with build order under > >> MSBuild > 4.0" > >> (4/14/10) that describes an identical issue. And another thread > >> titled > >> "Wix3.6.1518.0 to 3.6.1915.0 issue" (7/20/11) in which this bug > >> http://sourceforge.net/p/wix/bugs/2588/ is linked. But I can't > >> tell if the bug was fixed or just closed. > >> > >> Any ideas? > >> > >> VS/TFS2012, Wix 3.8 > >> -- > >> Tony > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> --------- Time is money. Stop wasting it! Get your web API in 5 > >> minutes. > >> www.restlet.com/download > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/restlet > >> _______________________________________________ > >> WiX-users mailing list > >> WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> --------- Time is money. Stop wasting it! 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