Another way of looking at what John is suggesting is considering that you probably want to take a step back a moment and focus more on version 3 and less on version 2. You're looking at some sort of super-linear number of installations you're going to have to support; all those permutations on top of what is already a matrix of install testing that needs to be done means you could be talking somewhere in the order of 10,000 different tests for just a couple of operating systems and configurations by versions 4 and 5. Obviously you can't test that much, so it would just be gap in the end result.
Version 2 is the easy part. The hard part is asking the age-old question, "What if more than 1 person did this?" Specifically, the answer may lay in focusing on what the wording of the word "support" means. Does adding users to version 1 affect version 2? Permissions? Maybe those questions might make it easier - but I advise not going through with scenario-based installers. :-) -----Original Message----- From: Pavan Konduru [mailto:pavan.kond...@accelrys.com] Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:19 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and side by side with the same installer Hi John, Thank you for your inputs. Looks like things would get pretty complicated when Hotfixes and patches will be involved. The problem is the product architecture supports different versions residing side-by-side. Been pulling my hair out to see how to make this work. How about creating 2 installers, one which does a side-by-side and one which would do an upgrade. The bootstrapper checks for existing product and give an option to user for upgrade/side-by-side. Call the appropriate installer based on User selection? Is this feasible? It would surely involve a lot of redundant code and maintenance. --Pavan -----Original Message----- From: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 2:48 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and side by side with the same installer No (it's not a good architecture). Major Upgrade mostly works really well and can be fully automated. Side-by-side converts it to a manual process. You're also going to have to maintain a set of patches for each release (really, each separate product, since you're going to have to have separate upgrade code GUID's to make this work). Of course, there are plenty of products out here that execute this model, including several from Microsoft. But popular doesn't mean good. With each new "version" that can run side-by-side with all the others, you're going to have a factorial increasing load for your QA team trying to figure out (and stamp out) all the interactions. Same goes for each installer, each patch, each upgrade, etc. -- John Merryweather Cooper Build & Install Engineer - ESA Jack Henry & Associates, Inc.® Shawnee Mission, KS 66227 Office: 913-341-3434 x791011 jocoo...@jackhenry.com www.jackhenry.com -----Original Message----- From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 5, 2014 4:27 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and side by side with the same installer Best I could think is to use Burn and make each install able to side by side install, and conditionally remove the old copy based on user input inside a custom BA.. You'd lose the major upgrade goodies of Windows Installer, but it should work. -----Original Message----- From: Pavan Konduru [mailto:pavan.kond...@accelrys.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 3:04 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. (wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net) Subject: [WiX-users] Upgrade and side by side with the same installer Hi All, Is it possible to create an installer that would do an upgrade or side-by-side based on the user input? Say we have 1.0 installed. When the user runs a version 2.0 of the same product, give him a choice to either upgrade the existing or install as a side by side. Is it a good architecture to even allow this? --Pavan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion & Make the Move to Perforce. With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works. Faster operations. Version large binaries. 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