On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Rob Mensching <r...@robmensching.com> wrote:
> Honestly, when I hear about lots of defines and lots of includes I become > suspicious that the code is not leveraging Fragments effectively. > That's a good point and just the sort of thing that I'm surprised isn't discussed (or blogged) more. I find project layout one of the most annoying aspects (in WiX and/or C#) and find that I'm constantly moving stuff around as the project grows. In WiX, I've tended to group like elements together as that's how I know where to locate an issue and extend the behavior (Ex. look for feature definitions in the Feature.wxs file, etc.). I'll take a look at the wix source. > > > PS: last I checked, C/C++ and C# are linked together by "case sensitive > strings" as well. Not sure why that is such an issue in the WiX toolset. > <smile/> > I'm not blaming WiX, but Windows Installer. Though, I think, an IntelliSense type integration would probably resolve many of the issues. Guess we've become spoiled by the tools and take them for granted. I recently had some C++/CLR code in VS2010 to deal with. VS2010 didn't have IntelliSense and/or syntax highlighting for C++/CLR, it was very tedious to work on (thankfully vs2012 fixed the issue). I grew-up pre-IntelliSense, but that's one aspect of the "good ole' days" I'd rather not see again. Heck who likes working on C# without R#? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tony [mailto:yellowjacketl...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:59 PM > To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Placing XXXSequences in a fragment > > Ideally, I should have my custom actions and feature definitions in my > wixlibs, but due to the way our custom action dll is built (and must > continue to work with our legacy installers) that isn't very partical. > > That said, project layout and build issues is something that I'm surprised > isn't discussed more as from past experience it is something that can get > out-of-hand quickly. Espeicaly given that so many items in Windows > Installer (and thus WiX) are linked together by "case senstivie strings" > (ugh!). Sometimes, I think my .wxi file is larger than my wxs files given > all of the <?define xxxx="xxx"/> that are needed. > > I'd love to hear from others on how they organize small, medium, large and > very large installers. > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Rob Mensching <r...@robmensching.com> > wrote: > > > I group things by functionality not type. Thus my .wxs files are named > > for what they are "Toolset.wxs" "MSBuild.wxs" and sometimes centralize > > the Folders.wxs (group by type). I wouldn't do > CustomActionsAndSequences.wxs. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tony [mailto:yellowjacketl...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:51 PM > > To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Placing XXXSequences in a fragment > > > > Thanks, that's what I thought. I come up with something, I just > > wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some sort of FragmentRef type > thing... > > > > Right now I have... > > > > Product.wxs -- Product, Package, Media, Conditions, UIRef, > > FeaturesRef, Windows Installer Properties (ARPXXX, MSIXXX, etc.) > > Directories.wxs Features.wxs -- ComponentRefs (all defined in several > > wixlibs) CustomActionsAndSequences.wxs -- Binary, CustomAction, > > InstallExecuteSequence, InstallUISequence > > 2-3 lUI.wxs (based off of a slightly modified WixUI_FeatureTree > > pattern) > > > > Haven't decided where I'll define my properties. Maybe a > > Properties.wxs or (more likely) in the UI.wxs files since that's where > > most of them get set. > > > > Hmmm... Maybe it makes more since to place the feature definitions in > > the wixlibs rather than in the 'main' wix project??? > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM, David Watson <dwat...@sdl.com> wrote: > > > > > To link fragments together requires you to reference one from another. > > > > > > Use some sort of ...ref in you main wxs file to pull in the entire > > > fragment. > > > > > > A UIRef maybe or something in the fragment that also has a ref element. > > > > > > If there is nothing then you can go with the PropertyRef path. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tony [mailto:yellowjacketl...@gmail.com] > > > Sent: 20 November 2013 14:44 > > > To: WiX Users > > > Subject: [WiX-users] Placing XXXSequences in a fragment > > > > > > I'd like to place my entire Install/UI Sequence sections into their > > > own wxs files. However, when I do that they seem to be ignored. > > > Any ideas how I can get this work? 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