The developers are a vendor to whom we pay an astonishing amount of money.
I'm just opening a defect and telling them it's stupid.

I'm sure someone at some level (even if I have to make it up to my Senior
Director talking to their CTO) will make them see the light.


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Phil Wilson <phildgwil...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Sometimes, if you explain to them that the entire Windows update method for
> everything (their updates, Windows hotfixes, patches, service packs etc) is
> based on file versions they might come around. If not, make the caveat that
> everything they attempt will be more work and more unreliable.
>
> Phil Wilson
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Christopher Painter <chr...@iswix.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Understood.  I've dealt with these types over the years.  I don't have
> much
> > patience for it and can usually things done the right way. But when it
> > becomes obvious that the mountain will not move, I break out my bag of
> > tricks to keep the train moving.  I prefer not to though.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> >  From: "Walter Dexter" <wfdex...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:18 AM
> > To: "General discussion about the WiX toolset."
> > <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] File version
> >
> > Thanks a lot, Chris. I was 99.9% sure that was the case.
> >
> > It's a Java program. They haven't said, but based on strings in the
> > executable, they're Ej-technologies' exe4j to make an EXE.
> >
> > Based on the exe4j documentation, one step on the way through the wizard
> > is
> > to set the version resource values, so it doesn't seem like it should be
> > hard. What they said was "their developers had a meeting and decided to
> do
> > this" when I asked them to put in version resources. So 0.0.0.0 as a file
> > version is a conscious decision!
> >
> > These guys are "interesting" to work with sometimes.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Christopher Painter
> > <chr...@iswix.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, that's going to be a problem.  There are ways to mitigate it but
> is
> > > there any chance they can fix this?   What tool are they using to make
> > the
> > > EXE?
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------
> > >  From: "Walter Dexter" <wfdex...@gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:17 AM
> > > To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset."
> > > <WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > Subject: [WiX-users] File version
> > >
> > > Hi, folks.
> > >
> > > Sorry to ask such naive (and honestly, non-WiX) questions, but...
> > >
> > > when installing from an MSI, Windows Installer makes decisions on EXE
> > > files
> > > based on the file version resource in the file, right?
> > >
> > > I have a vendor releasing software to me where they've set the Product
> > > version in their EXE and intend to increment it as versions change, but
> > > they have set the File version to 0.0.0.0 and don't intend to ever
> > change
> > > it.
> > >
> > > I have no idea why they think this is sensible behavior, but it's what
> > > they
> > > intend to do.
> > >
> > > I get the joy of packaging their stuff into MSI, so I'm hoping someone
> > can
> > > tell me if this is going to be a problem when upgrading.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Walt
> > >
> > >
> >
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