I thinks it's learning to use the API of C++ burn that’s the hurdle.  
Especially since an installer is fairly important to get right.  I've been 
putting off creating a custom BA because of lack of docs.    Eventually I will 
and at that time I can provide a tutorial if it's still useful.  Even with a 
tutorial there is a lot of info and best practices that you miss.  Creating 
installers is a small part of my job unfortunately.  

But I can understand why Rob encourages contributors to code/docs it wouldn't 
be economic to produce a book I think.

Wes  

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: September-18-13 4:42 PM
To: afor...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?

On my 5 year old machine it takes 5 minutes to build all of the WiX toolset 
source. That isn't *that* long is it? Seems like a reasonable amount of time to 
build a project of our size. There is documentation in the WiX.chm with 
instructions how to build.


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Alain Forget <afor...@cmu.edu> wrote:

> Is there a tutorial somewhere on where to get the stock BA's source, 
> and how to make various changes to it? The only tutorial I found 
> involved cracking open Visual Studio, and seemed to involve 
> recompiling the whole source and...yeah, a big hurdle to jump.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicolás Alvarez [mailto:nicolas.alva...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 15:25
> To: afor...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?
>
> The stock BA is open source. You don't need to start from scratch, 
> just modify the stock one.
>
> --
> Nicolás
>
> 2013/9/18 Alain Forget <afor...@cmu.edu>:
> > It just seems like going from the stock BA to rolling your own 
> > custom BA
> just to either get rid of the UI or add a single text box, radio 
> button, or window/step seems extremely costly in time and effort for 
> what seems like a minor modification.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:40
> > To: afor...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML
> toolset.
> > Subject: RE: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?
> >
> >   I believe the mantra is don't use installer UI's, use a BA UI.  As
> such, if you need a custom UI then generate a BA to give the look and 
> feel that you want.  The reasoning behind having a BA UI is so you can 
> have a single unified installation experience. Having a chain of 5 
> MSI's all exposing their own UI's would result in a choppy and subpar user 
> experience.
> >
> >   That being said, WiX is open source, so anyone is free to 
> > contribute
> enhancements.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:31 AM
> > To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?
> >
> > There seems to be a lot of demand for more control over installer 
> > and
> bootstrapper UIs. Just out of curiosity, is this being worked on for 
> future WiX releases?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:27
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: Bootstrapper -- Can it be UI-less?
> >
> > Yes. You'd need to create a custom BA.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 2:27 AM, nkshirsagar <nkshirsa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rob and others on the mailing list!
> >>
> >> I'm wondering the same thing. I have a minimal UI msi that I've 
> >> customised slightly with logos and banners. I want this UI to run 
> >> immediately instead of the first screen that the botstrapper UI shows.
> >> (licence agreement, etc).
> >> The licence agreement gets shown twice as that screen is already in 
> >> my MSI UI. All I need the bootstrapper for, is to install .net 4.5 
> >> if its not already present and then kick off my msi.
> >>
> >> Is there any way to achieve this ?
> >>
>
>
>
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