Bob wrote a nice blog entry about this: http://www.joyofsetup.com/2008/12/30/paying-for-upgrades/
Lots of tradeoffs to consider. On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:33 PM, <keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca> wrote: > Thank you for the information, Phil. This raises another bunch of > questions: > > Why is the default in this location in the sequence (that seems > unfortunate, since rollbacks are part of the point of using MSIs)? > Should I change the location for all my installers? > What's a good way to this when building the package? If I change nothing > but add an InstallExecuteSequenceElement with a RemoveExistingProducts with > a Sequence attribute of, say, 1501, will I be ok? > Or do I have to use a complete other sequence (i.e., fill in all the > values for all the other steps which might occur "manually")? > > (I looked at Nick Ramirez's book for 3.0, and this doesn't seem to be > covered.) > > > Keith Douglas > Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 > Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 > keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca > Telephone | Téléphone 613-951-4405 > Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-1966 > Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com] > Sent: August-21-13 4:02 PM > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Expected behaviour > > When REP is at that location, it's essentially a complete uninstall of the > older product followed by the install of the new product, so what you get > is very similar to a user uninstall of the old product and then the install > of the new. The older files will be installed because you're basically > doing a fresh install of the new product containing older files. Other > locations of REP aren't all like that. > > Your problem is that REP needs to be after InstallInitialize because the > rollback transation boundaries are InstallInitialize and InstallFinalize, > so your REP was not in the transaction and not rolled back. > > > > > > Phil Wilson > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM, <keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca> wrote: > > > Thanks for answering Phil, > > > > Unfortunately a verbose log is not available. However, I know that > > there's no explicit sequencing of RemoveExistingProducts or anything > > else for that matter by my WXS. According to the MSI itself it is > > 1401, immediately after InstallValidate and before InstallInitialize > > (I assume the sequence is just in ascending order of Sequence in the > > InstallExecuteSequence table.) > > > > (If it matters, the whole is > > FindRelatedProducts,AppSearch,LaunchConditions,ValiadateProductID,Cost > > Initialize,FileCost,CostFinalize,MigrateFeatureStates,InstallValidate, > > RemoveExistingProducts,InstallInitialize,ProcessComponents,UnpublishFe > > atures,StopServices,DeleteServices,RemoveFiles,InstallFiles,InstallSer > > vices,StartServices,RegisterUser,RegisterProduct,PublishFeatures,Publi > > shProduct,InstallFinalize.) > > > > > > Keith Douglas > > Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 > > Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A > > 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-951-4405 > > Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-1966 Government of Canada | > > Gouvernement du Canada > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Phil Wilson [mailto:phildgwil...@gmail.com] > > Sent: August-21-13 2:43 PM > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Expected behaviour > > > > A proper answer will depend on where you have sequenced > > RemoveExistingProducts. > > > > A verbose log will tell you what happened. > > > > Phil Wilson > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:25 AM, <keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca> wrote: > > > > > If a service update (a MajorUpgrade of a service installation) fails > > > for some reason, and a rollback to the previous version happens, > > > what happens if the MSI for the rollback cannot be found? Would this > > > leave no files from the first package in the installation directory? > > > I guess I may have naïvely thought that the rollback would just use > > > the directory as is. If that's the case, what caches a copy of MSIs > > > in the system directory so we can use them in this situation? We'd > > > like to keep a sensibly named version in our own installer directory > > > on these machines so technicians can do the installation manually > > > under certain circumstances and to interoperate with our file > > > transfer mechanism > > (details of no importances). > > > > > > I'm trying to figure out why an install of one of our services had > > > the net effect of simply deleting the old files but repair (of the > > > seemingly installed new package) restored the new ones. All I know > > > is accidentally old versions of the executable and libraries were > > > included > > in the new MSI. > > > > > > Moreover, what is supposed to happen in general in a MajorUpgrade if > > > the KeyPathed file is of a previous version than the one currently > > installed? > > > > > > I take it in that case any CompanionFiles of that will "come along > > > for the ride" regardless of what happens, correct? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Keith Douglas > > > Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 > > > Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A > > > 0T6 keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-951-4405 > > > Facsimile | Télécopieur 613-951-1966 Government of Canada | > > > Gouvernement du Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > -------- Introducing Performance Central, a new site from > > > SourceForge and AppDynamics. 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