Question is if these machines don't have internet access, why is keeping them 
up to date an issue?
If the answer is they have network access but not internet access then why not 
just set up a machine to run WSUS for you -> 
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsserver/bb332157.aspx It's practically 
a fire-and-forget solution once you configure it.
There's a hell of a lot of work involved in manually updating them & you're 
bound to miss stuff. I built a new desktop at home a couple of weeks ago on 
Windows 7 & I had over 120 updates to apply. That was before the 15-20 released 
just this week and that machine doesn't have MS Office or Visual Studio of any 
kind installed.

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-----Original Message-----
From: keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca [mailto:keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca] 
Sent: 11 July 2013 15:46
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Windows updates

So Burn is needed? (I am not surprised, given that it would be several files to 
install that are likely internally transactional and the rest, but just wanted 
to confirm.)

We don't have internet access on the machines; that's sort of the point - to 
get them a collection of stand-alones over their special connection back home. 
Right now this is a few tens of megabytes of updates delivered monthly. Is this 
large as far as burn goes? I see on the list about others installing SQL Server 
Express and .NET etc. which sounds about that order. (Especially as some 
updates to .NET will be sent our way.)




Keith Douglas
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] 
Sent: July-11-13 10:35 AM
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Windows updates

Grab the appropriate Service Packs for the OSes you're supporting from 
http://search.microsoft.com/en-us/DownloadResults.aspx?q=service+pack , and 
Bundle them into an installer with burn?

Sound like it could end up a pretty massive installer though, so you might want 
to look into the WiX elements that allow the installer to download the service 
packs on demand (assuming the target machines have internet access when 
installing), rather than packaging them into the installer itself. I haven't 
done the downloading thing (although I probably should be), so I unfortunately 
can't advise on that, but I don't think it's overly complicated.

Alain

-----Original Message-----
From: keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca [mailto:keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca]
Sent: July 11, 2013 10:12
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Windows updates

Hi folks,

Is there a way to bundle-and-install the standalone updates that one would get 
from Microsoft to update Windows (e.g. security updates with the "Windows 
Update Standalone" file type or whatever it is exactly)? If so, where should I 
start looking to do this?

(We have machines which are too intermittent to be domainified and hence use 
our Active Directory / SCCM solution. Right now we just throw them an archived 
directory and a VBS or something; but this requires administrator. If we use an 
MSI we can use a previously developed mechanism - used for userland 
applications etc. - to run the package elevated which I doubt I need explain.)



Keith Douglas
Statistics Canada | 170 Tunney's Pasture Driveway, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 
Statistique Canada | 170, promenade Tunney's Pasture, Ottawa ON K1A 0T6 
keith.doug...@statcan.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 613-951-4405 Facsimile | 
Télécopieur 613-951-1966 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada 



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