Not a supported scenario, never tried. If you get it working, it may break
in the future. <smile/>


On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Raphael DUCOM <rdu...@prodware.fr> wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> Can you confirm there is no workaround letting us to put
> <requestedExecutionLevel  level="requireAdministrator" uiAccess="false" />
> into the BA manifest ?
>
> Waiting for your answer,
> Thanks in advance,
> Bests,
>
> Raphael DUCOM
>
>
>
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>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Raphael DUCOM
> Envoyé : mardi 8 janvier 2013 16:44
> À : 'wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net'
> Objet : RE: Bootstrapper manifest
>
> Rob, I agree with you that all can be made with custom actions, but we
> have implemented a custom installer which drives the MSI MSP installation
> with the WiX Engine, and drives our custom installation Task with specific
> actions which fits better our specific needs:
>
> The reason why we don't use CustomActions and have made the choice to
> implement a custom boostrapper/installer is the WiX inability to correctly
> manages multi-instance installations on a single machine with heterogeneous
> environments for each instance (dependencies, configurations, etc). The way
> WiX let developers create a multi-instance installer wasn't sufficient four
> our needs. Moreover we have had the need to implement specific actions for
> database update (we have a really specific way to make sql schema updates)
> directly depending on SQL / IIS configuration, then we have had the need to
> implement a working system in order to correctly configure a IIS and a SQL
> in a multi-instance mode, without all the actually related problems WiX
> encounter.
>
> For all these reasons, we have made the choice to only use WiX to drives
> the msi / msp installations, and have the hand on all the things WiX don't
> know how to do, or is really too hard to implement and debug with WiX.
>
> Now we have a working system, as soon as the use run the installer with
> "Run As Administrator", so I'd really like to know if you have an idea to
> let us give a better UI experience....
>
> Thanks in advance...
> Bests,
>
> Raphaël
>
>
> Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper manifest
> From: Rob Mensching <rob@ro...> -       2013-01-08 15:19
> I don't understand why you can't put the operations that modify the
> machine in a package in the Chain. You say you have to do it in the BA but
> not why.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Raphael DUCOM <rducom@...> wrote:
>
> Rob, that's why I said : " I'm working on a boostrapper which really needs
> elevated privileges in order to completely install our solution. ( I know I
> normally shouldn't do that, but we don't have choice because of the
> specific components needed to be install ). "
>
> So, is there a way to alter / driver / update the Bundle manifest before
> generation or once generated ? On just include a resource file into the
> Bundle project (as in normal projects), in order to control the executable
> manifest ?
>
> Please, I understood your point of view, and the fact you have to drive
> the way people uses WiX, but we only have this option in order to
> manipulate the elements we need to manipulate. We are in production
> environments, and using really specific technologies, all is working fine
> except the fact we have to put a message saying "you must run this "as
> administrator" because we have no way at the moment to just modify the
> manifest of the generated bundle executable...
>
> We just need to put a <requestedExecutionLevel
>  level="requireAdministrator" uiAccess="false" /> into this manifest... In
> order to give a "normal" / "usual" user experience... (think about nullsoft
> for example, I believe there is no restriction at this level)
>
> Hoping you can drive us to a working workaround...
>
> Bests,
>
>
> --------------------------------
> Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper manifest
> From: Rob Mensching <r...@robmensching.com> - 2013-01-08 14:17
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper manifest
>
> Your BootstrapperApplication should not be modifying machine state at all.
> Machine state changes should be in "packages" (MSI, EXE, MSP, etc.) that
> are listed in the Bundle/Chain element. Your BA can then control which
> packages are installed.
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Raphael DUCOM
> Envoyé : mardi 8 janvier 2013 09:58
> À : wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Objet : Re: Bootstrapper manifest
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> Many Thanks for your answer, but I believe I didn't give a good
> explanation...
> When you say "put stuff that modifies the machine in the Chain and
> elevate", I think you mean "using a custom action which elevates" like
> <CustomAction ....  Execute="deferred"  Impersonate="no" /> isn't it ?
>
> My scenario is different, I use the BootstrapperApplication class in order
> to implement our custom installer, and lot of specific actions are
> implemented inside our UI installer and not as CustomActions. This
> installer UI also drives the installation of msi via the wix Engine.
>
> So I need a way to elevate the process which instantiate and run the
> BootstrapperApplication class, not CustomAction. And for instance, I
> believe the only way is to alter / update the bootstrapper exe manifest.
>
> Is there a way to do that ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bests,
>
> Raphael DUCOM,
>
> --------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 06:06:41 -0800
> From: Rob Mensching <r...@robmensching.com>
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapper manifest
>
> Burn will elevate the install much the same way that the Windows Installer
> elevates the install. Make sure you put all your stuff that modifies the
> machine (aka: requires elevation) in the Chain and it will be elevated.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Raphael DUCOM <rdu...@prodware.fr> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm working on a boostrapper wich really needs elevated privileges in
> > order to completly install our solution. (I know I normally should'nt
> > do that, but we don't have choice because of the specific components
> > needed to be install).
> > I'm searching a way to define a specific manifest file for a generated
> > bootstrapper executable.
> > I'm aware of the already answered forum posts (in 2011) :
> > -
> > http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/Manifest
> > -for-Burn-Bootstrapper-td6605859.html
> > -
> > http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/Burn-how
> > -to-elevate-BA-Manifest-for-Burn-Bootstrapper-Continue-td6855345.html
> >
> > I have tried embed manifest with mt.exe with no success, same error as
> > the second post. (mt.exe : general error c101008c: Failed to read the
> > manifest from the resource of file "C:\ .....
> MyInstall_1.0.107.41.exe.manifest".
> > The binary is not a valid Windows image.) I also have tried the
> > Elevate() function of BA, which doesn't elevate the context at all.
> >
> > But when looking in depth to my generated executable with Mitec EXE
> > Explorer, I found there is a manifest embed into it (you will fin dit
> > at the end of this mail)
> >
> > My question is :
> > - Is there a way to embed or define a manifest with more recent (3.7)
> > version of WiX while generating a Bundle EXE ? (with specific candle
> > or light parameters ?)
> > - Is it possible to alter or modify the manifest once the bundle
> > executable is generated ? (with mage.exe ?)
> > - Is there a workaround other than "no, you just don't have to elevate
> > privileges" ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance, we are really stuck on this...
> >
> > Bests,
> > Raphael DUCOM
>
>
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