He's just installing the product itself and I think that it downloads .net if 
not already installed.  I talked to him about it last night, and he said that 
because it was crunch time and beta time, he simply wanted a quick solution 
with less of a learning curve in order to get the product out in a timely 
fashion.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:51 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] I have heard that MSI is too complicated from a 
programmer's prospective

It seems a bit unfair to blame MSI for the SQL Server install.

On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Katherine Moss <katherine.m...@gordon.edu>wrote:

> Thanks; I wish that MSI could prove so simple for users though in some 
> of Microsoft's own products.  Example?  I had SQL server Express 2012 
> on my server a few months ago, had to uninstall it to clear out some 
> errors, and are you kidding me?  I had to reinstall the operating 
> system to reinstall it!  Components got left behind, network share 
> errors abound (I was not even installing from the network!), 
> third-party uninstaller tools did not show the seemingly existing 
> components, and still no explanation from the sQL server team at 
> Microsoft!  What does that tell you about MSI?  It still appears to have it's 
> defects.  Unless my case was an isolated incident?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@iswix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 7:25 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.; General 
> discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. (
> wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net)
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] I have heard that MSI is too complicated from 
> a programmer's prospective
>
> MSI is complicated.  Setup is complicated.  There is a learning curve 
> but once you nail it, it's easy for your users.
>
> The key to MSI is that it's declarative (functional programming), 
> transactional and has standardized support for upgrades, patches, 
> uninstall, repair, silent and so on.  Learn how to do all this and you 
> can crank out massively complex, scalable installers with very low defect 
> rates.
>
> Try to do that in any procedural (Wise, InstallScript, PowerShell, 
> VBScript, .BAT, NSIS, Inno,  whatever..)  language and you'll quickly 
> find yourself with tomes of buggy code and inconsistent installation behavior.
>
> I did the latter for 6 years before switching to MSI.  I've been doing 
> MSI for 10 years.  You can take what I say to the bank.
>
> ----------------------------------------
>  From: "Katherine Moss" <katherine.m...@gordon.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 2:46 PM
> To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> (wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net)" <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: [WiX-users] I have heard that MSI is too complicated from a 
> programmer's prospective
>
> Hi guys,
> Since I am just learning to be a .NET C# programmer, can somebody shed 
> light on why using WiX over something like Inno would be more 
> complicated and why programmers are often less compelled to use WiX? 
> I'm asking this because my friend has got a project he's working on 
> where the main programmer is insistent on using Inno instead of WiX. 
> It's bothering me because if my friend wants his product to be more 
> administrator-friendly and compatible with group policy, doesn't he 
> need to be using MSI technologies? I mean, he wants that 
> administrative/ease-of-deployment across multiple servers/workstations 
> edge, but is he going to get it using Inno? And if not, then what can 
> I say to these people to help dispel the supposed "complications" of Windows 
> Installer? Thanks.
>
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