I have plenty of experience with declarative configuration/installation as I've
> spent years working with application servers not to mention .NET with its
> bevvy of config files for everything.
> 

But do you have any experience with Windows Installer? The posts you have made 
to the wix-users mailing list suggests you do not. In my experience, all 
_scripted_ deployment approaches developed for .NET that do not use Windows 
Installer are, in fact, procedural and not declarative. This is just not how 
Windows Installer works.

> > The Windows Installer (as Edwin noted) provides UI design you are critical
> of, not the WiX toolset.
> 
> I'm sorry, but that's just passing the buck. You're essentially blaming user
> difficulties with WiX on what lies underneath. If WiX can't make these
> problems go away or at least make them reasonably manageable then what
> is the point? What is the motivation for me or anybody else to use it if the
> difficulties that need to be dealt with are as bad or worse than the
> alternatives that don't involve WiX?? You do understand that many of us that
> are taking a first time look at WiX are not hobbyists with a lot of time on 
> our
> hands, but professionals facing real world job pressures like deadlines?
>

This is very much not passing the buck! Your lack of understanding of Windows 
Installer is severely impacting your point of view. I would urge you to read 
through the Windows Installer SDK documentation and attempt to author an MSI 
package using the tools available in the Windows Installer SDK. Perhaps you 
should take the time to fully understand the tool you are using for authoring 
MSI packages (WiX) before you start making comments about how useful it is or 
is not. Finally, you are perfectly welcome to not use WiX to author your MSI 
package. If you do decide to use a different tool and that tool produces a MSI 
package, then I would be interested in finding out how that tool gets Windows 
Installer to do what you want to do. A Windows Installer solution will be 
implemented similarly (generally speaking) regardless the tool used to produce 
the MSI package.

You really have a problem with how Windows Installer works (not WiX). Honestly, 
you should consider switching to something that does not produce Windows 
Installer packages (.msi). NSIS is but one option. If you have a requirement 
that says you *must* produce a Windows Installer package (.msi) then I'm afraid 
you are going to need to learn Windows Installer whether you like it or not.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Digital Channels
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