I decided to go with your advice and build a simple installer to get that
working first... so I basically copied the Wix tutorial for building patches
and kept updating it until I now have the same installer and patch, only
that they work this time. I still have no idea why it didn't work before,
which annoys me, but at least the installer system is working and I can move
on to things that make more sense to me. ;)

Thanks for your help Peter.

Regards
/Tobias Dersén

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Peter Shirtcliffe <pshirtcli...@sdl.com>wrote:

> That's a shame. We are currently struggling with a C#-based installation
> product written in-house by another team so we've seen how trading for
> short-term control yields long-term problems. Since we adopted Wix some
> years
> ago, which admittedly has a big learning curve mostly due to the underlying
> Windows Installer, the deployment side of our products has improved
> substantially. Getting the first version out is the hardest, but later
> versions get easier.
>
>
> Have a quick look at your build. We make our patches from admin
> installations
> rather than the full Wix-only method - if youre using the pure-Wix method
> then it'll differ somewhat. These are the command lines, taken from an
> MSBuild file used to build them. Maybe you can glean something from them.
>
> <!-- Uses -ax (admin) instead of -xi (xml input) and add -xo when using
> -ax.
> -->
> torch.exe -t patch -xo -ax "$(WorkingDir)\Binaries" -p
> "$(WorkingDir)\Release\$(MSIName)" "$(WorkingDir)\Update\$(MSIName)" -out
> "$(WorkingDir)\Diff.Wixmst"
>
> candle.exe "$(MSBuildProjectDirectory)\Patch.wxs" -out
> "$(WorkingDir)\Patch.wixobj"
>
> light.exe "$(WorkingDir)\Patch.wixobj" -out "$(WorkingDir)\Patch.WixMsp"
>
> pyro.exe" "$(WorkingDir)\Patch.WixMsp" -out
> "$(MSBuildProjectDirectory)\$(PatchName)" -pdbout
> "$(WorkingDir)\$(PatchName).wixpdb" -t $(Baseline)
> "$(WorkingDir)\Diff.wixmst"
>
> ! Note that the $(BaseLine) value must be the same as PatchBaseLine/@Id
> value
> in the patch wxs file.
>
> After checking your build I'd suggest two things that help me: trying and
> make a simple 1 file installer and patch. If that doesn't work then you
> have
> narrowed your search down. If it does work then you've verified that you
> are
> doing the right thing and just have to find where you didn't do it in the
> product.
> The other thing is to look at other patch logs and see what a successful
> patch looks like and where your log differs. The answer is nearly always
> there if only you know what to look for. Perhaps someone on here with
> better
> knowledge of patching can suggest where to look in the log, given the
> information so far.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tobberoth [mailto:tobber...@gmail.com]
>  Sent: 15 June 2011 09:01
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Component Request: null eventhough
> parentfeatureisinADDLOCAL
>
> I did indeed retain the code. Since nothing has changed except the
> internals
> of the two files, both heat-generated .wxs are identical.
>
> I'm glad to hear that it looks OK since I was worried I had made some
> obvious embaressing mistake... that said, it's quite unsettling that you
> can't find any problem. I've had SO many issues with Wix and I think my
> boss
> is getting less and less happy that I chose Wix for our development. While
> Major Upgrades are working well, I've been trying to get some form of MSP
> system to work for ages now and it just refuses to work. First I had major
> issues with the SqlExtension where SQL refused to run during MSPs. I never
> got that to work and I'm currently using a CAQuietExec to run sqlcmd
> instead. (At that point in time, the MSP actually did update files though).
> Now this.
>
> I'm on the verge of thinking that coding a whole installer myself in C#
> would have been easier and faster.
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Peter Shirtcliffe
> <pshirtcli...@sdl.com>wrote:
>
> > Did you run heat twice, once each on the original and upgrade MSIs, or
> did
> > you retain the same source code for both versions ? You should be
> retaining
> > the code.
> >
> > Other than that, it seems OK.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tobberoth [mailto:tobber...@gmail.com]
> >  Sent: 14 June 2011 12:33
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Component Request: null eventhough parent
> > featureisinADDLOCAL
> >
> > Absolutely, let me know what information is needed. Here's my patch file,
> > which is basically straight up from the tutorial on the wix page:
> >
> >    <Patch
> >        AllowRemoval="yes"
> >        Manufacturer="Syscase"
> >        DisplayName="Test Patch"
> >        Description="Small Update Patch"
> >        Classification="Update"
> >        >
> >
> >        <Media Id="5000" Cabinet="Sample.cab">
> >            <PatchBaseline Id="Sample"/>
> >        </Media>
> >
> >        <PatchFamilyRef Id="SamplePatchFamily"/>
> >    </Patch>
> >
> >    <Fragment>
> >        <PatchFamily Id='SamplePatchFamily' Version='5.1.0.0'
> > Supersede='yes'>
> >            <ComponentRef Id="cmp432C3967A6AA13C06D8D1E0E95348403"/>
> >   <ComponentRef Id="cmpTestsql"/>
> >   <CustomActionRef Id="sqlcmd.cmd" />
> >        </PatchFamily>
> >    </Fragment>
> >
> > The components are defined in a .wxs created by heat, something like
> this:
> > <Fragment>
> >        <DirectoryRef Id="INSTALLDIR">
> >            <Directory Id="dirFC51653BB9D6AD82C52CC25E1257C927"
> > Name="readme">
> >                <Component Id="cmp432C3967A6AA13C06D8D1E0E95348403"
> > Guid="84E0BEA1-95DA-4D37-A838-EAB8D0556A75">
> >                    <File Id="filFBC7318D3D0A5C9BDF1AE0C50DB2AF45"
> > KeyPath="yes" Source="SourceDir\..\Files\readme.txt" />
> >                </Component>
> >            </Directory>
> >   <Component Id="cmpTestsql" Guid="58BE1C34-46EE-4AC0-98C4-58DF2C4726CF">
> >                    <File Id="filTestSql" KeyPath="yes"
> > Source="SourceDir\..\Files\Test.sql" />
> >                </Component>
> >        </DirectoryRef>
> >    </Fragment>
> >    <Fragment>
> >        <ComponentGroup Id="NewFilesGroup">
> >            <ComponentRef Id="cmp432C3967A6AA13C06D8D1E0E95348403" />
> >   <ComponentRef Id="cmpTestsql" />
> >        </ComponentGroup>
> >    </Fragment>
> >
> > If I can post anything more to help you help me, just let me know.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Peter Shirtcliffe
> > <pshirtcli...@sdl.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry I was ambiguous. When I say "edited", I mean "edited the
> installed
> > > version", not the version used to build the MSI. It sounds like you've
> > done
> > > it correctly.
> > >
> > > If the file was not edited on the target machine and you didn't find
> any
> > > advertising in the log and vamus doesn't help, then I'm not sure what
> > could
> > > be wrong from the information given. Can you post extracts of your
> patch
> > > wxs
> > > and component definitions ?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tobberoth [mailto:tobber...@gmail.com]
> > >  Sent: 13 June 2011 09:00
> > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Component Request: null eventhough parent
> > > featureis
> > > inADDLOCAL
> > >
> > > Thanks for your reply.
> > >
> > > Yes, the text file has been edited after the install. I build msi 1,
> > > install
> > > it. I edit the text file, create msi 2, create msp from the two msi's
> and
> > > run it (with REINSTALLMODE=vamus). File is not updated nor requested.
> > >  I looked at your link and only found 2 parts. In both, the problem
> > seemed
> > > to have something to do with advertise, but "advertise" is not
> mentioned
> > in
> > > my patch log, so I don't think either article is relevant to my issue
> :(
> > >
> > > Any more advice would be very appreciated.
> > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Peter Shirtcliffe
> > > <pshirtcli...@sdl.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Has the text file been edited since it was installed ? Ensure that
> the
> > > > modification and creation dates and times are the same before
> applying
> > > the
> > > > msp.
> > > >
> > > > There is no reinstallmode at component level. You could try
> > > > REINSTALLMODE=vamus to force an overwrite regardless of "version"
> just
> > to
> > > > see
> > > > if that works.
> > > >
> > > > This series of 3 articles may suggest avenues of inquiry
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/windows_installer_team/archive/2005/08/17/451516.aspx
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tobberoth [mailto:tobber...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: 10 June 2011 15:11
> > > > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Subject: [WiX-users] Component Request: null eventhough parent
> feature
> > is
> > > > inADDLOCAL
> > > >
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying to make an MSP which can update a few files and run a few
> > SQL
> > > > scripts. It has taken me ages to get anywhere because of boatloads of
> > > > issues, but I'm finally in a situation where my MSP runs and
> completes,
> > > > updating the database properly. Unfortunately, it doesn't actually
> > update
> > > > files and I can't understand why. My setup is like this:
> > > >
> > > > * I make an msi which includes a .txt file.
> > > > * I make a second msi which includes the same .txt after it has been
> > > > updated.
> > > > * I make a minor upgrade .msp from the two .msi files.
> > > >
> > > > I run the first msi, it works great. If I run the second one (as a
> > major
> > > > upgrade) that works as well, it contains the updated .txt file.
> > However,
> > > if
> > > > I run the first msi then run the msp, the .txt file isn't updated,
> even
> > > > though opening the .msp in InstaEd! shows that the patch .cab
> contains
> > > the
> > > > updated .txt file. Running with verbose log, it looks good for the
> > > feature:
> > > >
> > > > MSI (s) (6C:00) [15:37:48:756]: Feature: FEAT_Main; Installed: Local;
> > > > Request: Local;   Action: Local
> > > >
> > > > It's installed but it's requested to be installed again, as it should
> > be
> > > > since I'm running with REINSTALL=ALL and REINSTALLMODE=vomus. Sweet.
> > > >
> > > > However, the component which is part of the feature is showing
> > something
> > > > else:
> > > >
> > > > MSI (s) (6C:00) [15:37:48:756]: Component:
> > > > cmp432C3967A6AA13C06D8D1E0E95348403; Installed: Local;   Request:
> Null;
> > > > Action: Null
> > > >
> > > > What? How can the component possibly not be requested when the
> feature
> > > > which
> > > > owns it is? Another component in the same feature (.sql file) is
> > > requested
> > > > to local as expected.
> > > >
> > > > Does the MSP by default not understand that it's supposed to
> overwrite
> > > > files
> > > > which have changed between packages? How can I force Request: local
> on
> > > the
> > > > component level since it isn't enough on the feature level?
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > /Tobias Dersén
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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