With settings affecting the layout I primarily mean settings affecting the fonts. Play with things like Windows XP: Use large fonts
Windows 7: DPI settings Control Panel\Appearance and Personalization\Display -> use larger here 2011/5/11 Francisco Gabriel Malbrán <fgmalb...@gmail.com>: > Thanks Tobias. This is most interesting. > I've got several custom texts that are not WiX's default, that's why I'm > intending to test the layout. > The information about languages and placeholders is pretty useful! > > Finally, I didn't quite get what user settings may affect the layout? > > Thanks > > 2011/5/11 Tobias S <tobias.s1...@gmail.com> > >> In general the given WiX translation should fit the UI already and I'd >> consider only doing a short test of the given WiX translation. Maybe >> check if the longest string (checked with Orca or InstEd in table >> Error) fits. For the custom strings the same... >> >> Regarding language placeholders and layout. Had an interesting >> discussion with our guy from documentation and his recommendations >> about needed space for the different languages. All values are >> experience based may vary for certain strings. >> >> His recommendations are: Calculating twice as much space as english >> for a string placeholder should be ok. Russian seems to be the >> language needing most space (approx. 1,9 as much as English), Spanish >> and French follow thereafter with approx. 1,5 and German with 1,4. >> Chinese for example is very short as they have few characters for >> longer terms like e.g. 火车站 for "train station"... >> >> Btw: User settings may lead to different Windows Installer layouts >> >> >> 2011/5/10 Francisco Gabriel Malbrán <fgmalb...@gmail.com>: >> > Thank you very much Pally and Christopher. >> > >> > I am indeed intending to test texts & layout as part of the localization >> > task. The information about Orca and InstEd was really helpful, I didn't >> > know about that. However, it seem to not resolve the how to preview the >> > ErrorDlg, since the message to be shown there may vary and the previewers >> > (from Orca and from InstEd) show a generic text instead of any error text >> > (makes sense). I've seen that I can manually replace that text there but >> I >> > need something more straightforward for my localization team. I'm >> searching >> > for a way to do this using these editors now. >> > >> > The information on testing installations with VMs was really interesting >> > anyway. Thanks! >> > >> > Francisco Malbrán >> > >> > 2011/5/10 Christopher Painter <chr...@deploymentengineering.com> >> > >> >> As an aside, I also recommend Hyper-V. It's also free and the latest R2 >> >> SP1 adds the capabilities for dynamic memory allocation. The advantage >> in >> >> Hyper-V to me is that it has much broader hardware support ( pretty much >> >> everything on the Windows HCL list ) where VMWare is more picky. >> >> >> >> For those with more money to spend, hypervisors are pretty much >> commodity >> >> items now and the real magic is in the provisioning automation that you >> put >> >> around them. At my day job we use a system called VMLogix Labmanager >> which >> >> allows me to create template and configurations for automating the >> >> deployment of all sorts of images. If you are a TFS user then is also >> some >> >> pretty cool synergy between System Center Virtual Machine Manager and >> TFS. >> >> ( Think of a build that auto deploys a system, then some automated >> >> integration tests fail and a defect is automatically logged in the work >> item >> >> system. Later a developer open the bug to work on it and he has the >> >> deployed VM available to him on the spot. ) >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog >> >> Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves >> >> attention? E-Mail Me >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Pally Sandher <pally.sand...@iesve.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Pally Sandher <pally.sand...@iesve.com> >> >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Testing the UI >> >> To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset." < >> >> wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> >> Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 10:45 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> How do you mean test exactly? If you only want to check the text & >> layout >> >> of dialogs you can preview them using Orca or InstEd! >> >> The recommended approach for installation testing is to use virtual >> >> machines -> >> >> http://www.joyofsetup.com/2007/09/24/test-your-setups-virtually/ >> >> In addition to the products Bob A. recommends I'd add VMWare's ESXi (now >> >> known as vSphere Hypervisor) if you have hardware which it supports as >> it's >> >> pretty damn impressive as well as free. >> >> >> >> Palbinder Sandher >> >> Software Deployment Engineer >> >> T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500 >> >> F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501 >> >> >> >> http://www.iesve.com >> >> **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the <Virtual Environment>** >> >> Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No. >> >> SC151456 >> >> Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park, >> Glasgow >> >> G20 0SP >> >> Email Disclaimer >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Francisco Gabriel Malbrán [mailto:fgmalb...@gmail.com] >> >> Sent: 09 May 2011 20:03 >> >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. >> >> Subject: [WiX-users] Testing the UI >> >> >> >> Hello there. >> >> >> >> I've been struggling around this subject for some time now, and I'm >> >> wondering >> >> about the best approach to follow on achieving such objective. >> >> Right now, what I am thinking on is to mock all the installer by >> >> customizing >> >> the entire dialog set and placing all the dialogs one behind the other >> (so >> >> they >> >> can be tested on localization matters).Yet this is a partial solution >> >> because of >> >> all possible error messages. Besides makes me feel like a cave man >> >> intending >> >> to >> >> make fire :). >> >> >> >> Is there any recommended approach on the matter? >> >> >> >> Any previous experience story or custom approach would also be good :). >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Francisco >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software >> >> The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network >> >> management toolset available today. 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