My own career path is unusual.  I left the Marines in 1996 and skipped 
college to go work as a Sys Admin for EDS.  I spent 1 year travelling the world 
"deploying" ( aka sneakernet ) a unix / windows client server system.   It was 
a 
painful year as the deployment was only quarter baked but I gained a deep 
respect for how easy it should have been if only SOMEONE had bothered to 
properly automate it.    I then switched over to development.... learned 
PowerBuilder, ANSI C, Delphi, VB6, Unix Shell, Informix SQL and while I was an 
OK application developer, I was nothing special.   I quickly latched onto a 
glaring hole in the build / install niche and went as deep as I could at the 
expense of my more traditional development skills.   


Over the last few years I've been playing catch up with .NET and I feel that I 
have a pretty good grasp ( I've been mostly working on custom Build / Install - 
Tools for the last year including IsWiX )  but I'm still weak in OOD and have a 
lot to learn still.

So I'm trying to be great at both and I doubt there are more then a few people 
in the state of Texas that can say they are doing that.   Anyone who's trying 
to 
be great at .NET doesn't want to touch MSI with a ten foot pole and most people 
who are decent in installs don't have a strong development background.

Oh well... end rant.  Email me if'd you like your quarter back. :-)
 
Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog
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----- Original Message ----
From: "Goryuk, Alex" <agor...@rosettastone.com>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. 
<wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 8:47:38 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapping and Burn

Yup that pretty much sums it up :)

On Sep 2, 2010, at 6:49 PM, Christopher Painter wrote:

> 
>  I agree with you Bob except for one problem.  I've found so few setup 
>experts 

> who also have the broader application development experience.    Too few 
> developers want to specialize in this space.
> 
> Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog
> Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves 
> attention? E-Mail Me
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Bob Arnson <b...@joyofsetup.com>
> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Sent: Thu, September 2, 2010 7:32:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapping and Burn
> 
>  On 02-Sep-10 06:13, Pally Sandher wrote:
>> I have personally fixed things like that myself. Last year one of our dev's 
>> decided to implement the use of CAPICOM for some basic password encryption&  
>>MD5 
>>
>> checking&  thought it was OK to tell me "just self-register the CAPICOM DLL 
>> in 
>
>> the installer&  it'll work". He was also recommending we use an out-dated 
>> version of the discontinued CAPICOM containing some known security 
>> vulnerabilities. I re-wrote his code using the CryptoAPI completely removing 
>>the 
>>
>> need for the CAPICOM redistributable. Incidentally he no longer works for us 
>>any 
>>
>> more.
>> 
>> When the product developers make stupid decisions which impact upon setup 
>> development, call them on it or be prepared to put up with more of the same 
>> until the end of time.
> 
> This is why it's important for "setup developers" to be developers in 
> their own right, so they can speak with authority and, when necessary, 
> write code outside of setup to "lend a hand."
> 
> -- 
> sig://boB
> http://joyofsetup.com/
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