For the same reason why you'd use MSI standard actions and WiXExtensions over 
writing your own CA's.   Just as they have a data model and have been well 
tested, so do InstallShield setup prerequisites. 


Basically InstallShield's setup.exe already provides me with things like:

self extracting
code signing
manifesting
web download
multiple instance servicing
 language selection
 package caching
 running packages before the install
running packages only if features are selected
patch invocation  
silent execution

and so on.   It gives me the ability to extend this with open PRQ files (  XSD 
based XML documents that describe packages. )
http://blog.deploymentengineering.com/2006/11/using-installshield-12-to-install-net.html


It would take me an inordinate amount of time in any programming language to 
implement all of this and make sure it's extendable and bullet proof.  Don't  
believe me?   How many years has burn been in development?

That said, I'm very interested in seeing Burn come to life.  I will evaluate it 
against InstallShield and decide which one is better for my needs.

Chris
 
Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog
Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves 
attention? E-Mail Me



----- Original Message ----
From: "Goryuk, Alex" <agor...@rosettastone.com>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. 
<wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 8:34:49 AM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapping and Burn

Interesting reaction, care to explain why you wouldn't use NSIS as a 
bootstrapper?

Out of the following:
http://www.installsite.org/pages/en/msi/tips.htm#Launchers
http://makemsi-manual.dennisbareis.com/bootstrapper_exe_programs.htm
InstallShield's bootstrapper

I haven't found a single one that can be automated, scripted, pass parameters 
to 
the bootstrapper, currently updated by the community / open source and works on 
every platform that currently exists and with the extensibility of NSIS.

Alex


On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Christopher Painter wrote:

NSIS?  Sorry, I'd rather go to the dentist.

Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog
Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves
attention? E-Mail Me



----- Original Message ----
From: "Goryuk, Alex" <agor...@rosettastone.com<mailto:agor...@rosettastone.com>>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
<wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 8:10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapping and Burn

Have you guys tried using NSIS http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Main_Page ?

On Aug 30, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Christopher Painter wrote:

I've looked at dotNetInstaller and while it looks very interesting,  there is
no

way you are going to learn that tool and get a working bootstrapper in 15
minutes.

Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog
Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves
attention? E-Mail Me



----- Original Message ----
From: dB. <dbl...@dblock.org<mailto:dbl...@dblock.org>>
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
<wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 8:23:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Bootstrapping and Burn

http://dotnetinstaller.codeplex.com will get you there in 15 minutes or so.

dB. @ dblock.org<http://dblock.org>
Moscow|Geneva|Seattle|New York


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Cran [mailto:br...@cran.org.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:46 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [WiX-users] Bootstrapping and Burn

Hi,

I realise Burn has been removed from WiX 3.5, but I'm wondering if the
Visual Studio bootstrapper would be a good substitute or if I should
wait for a 3.6 snapshot. My main requirement is a single file that
users can download to do the installation, since I hate having a
setup.exe and MSI file because it's confusing and seems unnecessary.
The only component of Burn I've ever used before is setupbld, but I'm
wondering - will the output of Burn be a single exe, or will it be like
VS where you have to package lots of MSIs and an exe into a zip file
for distribution?

--
Bruce Cran

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program
Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users
worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and
speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d
_______________________________________________
WiX-users mailing list
WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program
Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users
worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and
speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d
_______________________________________________
WiX-users mailing list
WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users





------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program
Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users
worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue and
speed time-to-market. Join now, and jumpstart your future.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-atom-d2d
_______________________________________________
WiX-users mailing list
WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This SF.net<http://SF.net> Dev2Dev email is sponsored by:

Show off your parallel programming skills.
Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd
_______________________________________________
WiX-users mailing list
WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users





------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by:

Show off your parallel programming skills.
Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd
_______________________________________________
WiX-users mailing list
WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by:

Show off your parallel programming skills.
Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd
_______________________________________________
WiX-users mailing list
WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users



      

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This SF.net Dev2Dev email is sponsored by:

Show off your parallel programming skills.
Enter the Intel(R) Threading Challenge 2010.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-thread-sfd
_______________________________________________
WiX-users mailing list
WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users

Reply via email to