I'd second that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Reindl [mailto:stephen.rei...@tideum.com] 
Sent: 25 April 2010 11:13
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.5 Source Code

I agree that the bug-tracking/discussion system of Codeplex needs improvement. 

Why not keeping the bug-tracking and mailing lists (except the commit-list) on 
sf?

It's free :-) and working fine...

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Stephen

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. April 2010 07:27
An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.5 Source Code

Fair enough. I guess I took silence as a lack of interest and didn't
appropriately weight the fact that slow updates to CVS would prevent
interest (yes, sometimes I'm slow <smile/>).

I have been investigating CodePlex ever since they added Mercurial support.
Given the number of comments here about the preference for CodePlex, I give
it decent odds we'll move there. I still dislike the "discussion" system
(why can't they just have a real mailing list?) and the bug tracker isn't
really any better than SourceForge.

Anyway, as I've mentioned to some, I've been a bit over capacity for the
last few months. Things will be improving through May. Lots of churn right
now... thanks for the feedback here.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:31 PM, John H. Bergman (XPedient Technologies) <
john.berg...@xpedienttechnologies.com> wrote:

> I agree with that, if it were on codeplex, I would probably be more apt to
> dig through the source myself to work through some of the things that give
> me fits.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 5:49 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.5 Source Code
>
> I would like to see it on Codeplex like other Microsoft projects.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dieter Lunn [mailto:coder2...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 24 April 2010 23:43
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.5 Source Code
>
> Has there been any discussion of moving to a different VCS like SVN, Git or
> Mercurial?
>
> Dieter Lunn
> http://www.coder2000.ca
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Rob Mensching <r...@robmensching.com>
> wrote:
> > Stephen,
> >
> > Sorry, the lack of CVS updates is my fault. CVS has been giving me
> > fits lately and I have not been prioritizing getting to the root of
> > the issues because I didn't think anyone really cared. Neil is one of
> > about three people that have *ever* asked about CVS and I don't think
> > he hasn't asked about it since we got the WiX v3.0 issues worked out.
> > <smile/>
> >
> > I am kicking CVS again right now. I'm still seeing intermittent issues
> > but some things are at least moving along. Hopefully it'll all be
> > updated in the next hour. Again, sorry for causing you stress.
> >
> > Neil,
> >
> > I thought we had the binary files all fixed.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Stephen Reindl
> > <stephen.rei...@tideum.com>wrote:
> >
> >> ... fine, but as you've said, the blog entry is from 2008 and some of
> >> the software modules mentioned there is even no longer available
> >> (e.g. Sandbox help compiler 1.7)...
> >>
> >> It's not the question on building extensions. I would like to apply
> >> some of the patches mentioned in SF bug tracking because waiting for
> >> someone to bring this into the sources doesn't fit into our development
> timeframe.
> >> We've more or less in RTM-Mode in one of our software products. One
> >> of the things that prevents us releasing the software is (besides
> >> some showstoppers on our side .-) bug #2990556. If we would have the
> >> ability to fix the problem (i.e. apply the patch) by ourselves, I
> >> wouldn't need to write mails longer than my arm :-(.
> >>
> >> I agree that as long as wix 3.5 is in beta I have to expect (and
> >> accept) bugs, wix 3.5 is the only platform that supports VSTS 2010
> >> currently (the customer wanted to have the software developed with
> >> VSTS 2010 to get the chance to update to .NET 4.0 very soon).
> >>
> >> I personally do like the Idea of using wix because
> >>
> >> 1. It's free (and the site claims that source code is available) 2.
> >> It has a very valuable community (thanks folks for all the
> >> tips/blogs/questions/solutions available) 3. It can simply be stored
> >> in TFS besides the project (Votive is one of my personal favorites)
> >>
> >> What I would like to see from an open source solution is the chance
> >> to
> >>
> >> * fix bugs
> >> * enhance the software by myself
> >> * apply bugs fixed by the community and not applied until now in a
> >> given delivery
> >>
> >> and (if needed/possible) to pass the changes back to the community
> >> (we do this for other open source software that we use as well). I'm
> >> even willing to really spend some budget on things that need to be
> >> done. But this works only if there's a chance to
> >>
> >> 1. get access (at least reading) to a version control system that is
> >> up to date 2. get some documentation on how to build a development
> >> environment to develop and build wix that is now based on
> >> assumptions.
> >>
> >> Don't get me wrong: I do not want to start <blame> mode but currently
> >> I'm a little bit upset and we need to decide by end of next week if
> >> we stick on wix or if we need to switch to some other setup tool.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >> Von: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
> >> Gesendet: Samstag, 24. April 2010 10:18
> >> An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.5 Source Code
> >>
> >> I asked a similar question sometime ago and I believe the official
> >> source is held within Microsoft and then republished to CVS. The copy
> >> in CVS tends to lag behind the wix-sources.zip as republishing is
> manual.
> >> There are also issues with the CVS copy in that it has quite a lot of
> >> broken binary files. I have documented some of the things you need to
> >> do to build the source here:
> >> http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-to-create-wix-build-m
> >> ach
> >> ine.html.
> >> It focuses on WiX3 but I think it would apply to WiX3.5 (although the
> >> last time I tried a build of 3.5 it failed due to the binary issues
> >> in CVS and files missing from the zip).
> >>
> >> I would say that if you only want to rebuild extensions then the
> >> source is complete.
> >>
> >> Neil
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Stephen Reindl [mailto:stephen.rei...@tideum.com]
> >> Sent: 23 April 2010 16:08
> >> To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> >> Subject: [WiX-users] WiX 3.5 Source Code
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> We are using wix for development of setup tools for our software. As
> >> part of our efforts we would like to enhance Wix by some parts and
> >> (hopefully) share the results with you. In addition we are willing to
> >> provide some effort into fixing problems with Wix.
> >>
> >> The question is now: Where's the source code? With every weekly
> >> release you are providing wix-sources.zip which is more or less
> complete.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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