I don't see the difference between Case 1 and Case 2, except that the installation directories are switched.
Four more questions (unless there is some error in what I understood so far) 1- Can the user switch cases down the road?? 2- Does Version 3 overwrite Version 1 in both cases? Or is there some future PathC/PathD thing going on? 3- When Version 2 is installed, is version 1 ever removed by any means? 4- If a security or other flaw is discovered in Version 1, how do you intend to address it? -----Original Message----- From: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) [mailto:chunyan.ji...@ge.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:45 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install Hi Blair, Probably my use-case is special. My software should be able to install flexiably. It can be installed as following: Case 1: Version 1 install to PathA, Version 2 install to PathB Case 2: Version 2 install to PathA, version 1 install to PathB, again. I am stuck in developing case 1. When I have installed version 1 to PathA, then try to install verison 2 to PathB, the version 1 will always be detected via "Install Validate". And it tries to remove files from PathA during "Remove Files". Althought version 2 can be installed to PathB at last, version 1 is brocken. And some CA in version 2 PathB can not run since version 1 PathA are detected for upgrade. Therefore, I hope there is some registry mechanism so that when install version 2 to PathB, instead of PathA, then the new version will not be treated as upgrade. So that the files are not "validated" and "removed". For case 2, I know it is "multi instance" issue in wix installer develop. It is my next step. Could you please give me some help how to realize case 1? Thanks a lot! Chunyan -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Blair [mailto:os...@live.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Oktober 2009 02:35 An: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install So you need upgrades to not replace previous installations? In that case they are not upgrades. I'm still trying to understand your use-case and your servicing strategy. How do you intend to fix older versions? What do your users expect when they run a newer installation package from you when they have an older version installed? -----Original Message----- From: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) [mailto:chunyan.ji...@ge.com] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:48 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install Hi Rob, I think over my scenario and clarify it that I want my App should be installed with the registry, which has the path information (PathA) in it. So that when install a higher version (version 2) in another path (PathB), even they have same UpgradeCode, the previous version (version1) should not be upgraded (no Remove Action, no CustomAction). And the higher version is only treated as new install. However, if I define the RegistryKey and RegistrySearch as my previous email, the Property "INSTALLDIR" will be always true, since it is all for the current install, not search previus install. And when I check the Registry Editor, I only find the current Registry: ViewPointUpgrade, value:PathB There is no previous registry. So the RegistrySearch will always be true. As I imagine, all the installation should be in the registry. And the property "INSTALLDIR" will do the registrysearch for all installed version. How to realize it? Regards, Chunyan -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Oktober 2009 10:39 An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install Hi Rob, You are right. I have been in the pain for long time. But I have no charge of this CustomAction. I only know this CustomAction should be run only in the upgrade. And I have to make it work. :( I have modified the Registry element and give the condition to the custom as bellow: <Property Id="INSTALLDIR"> <RegistrySearch Id='ViewPointRegistry' Type='raw' Root='HKCU' Key='Software\Microsoft\ViewPointUpgrade' Name='InstallDir' /> </Property> <DirectoryRef Id="APPLICATIONFOLDER"> <Component Id="RegistryForUpgrade" Guid="D555488C-C8E7-44eb-91EC-3750602A7599"> <RegistryKey Id='ViewPointInstallDir' Root='HKCU' Key='Software\Microsoft\ViewPointUpgrade' Action='createAndRemoveOnUninstall' > <RegistryValue Name='InstallDir' Type='string' Value='[APPLICATIONFOLDER]' /> </RegistryKey> </Component> </DirectoryRef> <Custom Action="UpgradeStopServices1" Before="InstallFiles">PREVIOUSFOUND AND INSTALLDIR</Custom> The the upgrade is defined in the beginning of the wxs: <Upgrade Id="8517ae9a-667d-4bd3-9cea-4323be6d7040"> <UpgradeVersion OnlyDetect="no" Property="PREVIOUSFOUND" Minimum="5.0.0.0" IncludeMinimum="yes" Maximum="8.0.0.0" IncludeMaximum="no" /> </Upgrade> However, when I run the upgrade, install version 2 in PathA, where the version 1 installed, CustomAction is still not called. It causes the problem for later function. Is there something wrong in Property define, or in the condition for CustomAction? Regards, Chunyan -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 17:38 An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install 1. Personally, I would highly suggest you change your application so this CustomAction is unnecessary. You are in for a world of pain in the long run. <smile/> 2. The Registry element has been deprecated in WiX v3. The warning tells you exactly what to do. 3. You'll have to condition your CustomAction in your first version of your MSI to not run on upgrade in the cases you are trying to avoid. If you have already shipped the first version of the MSI then you probably have to release a patch to that version to add the condition. After the patch is applied then you can try the upgrade. 4. See #1. <smile/> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) < chunyan.ji...@ge.com> wrote: > Although there is Warning message on compile. From the verbose log I > got to know that the Custom Action will not be called when install > version 2 to PathB. > > Howver, there is Remove Action trying to remove files from PathA for > version 1 install during installing version 2 to PathB. And Install > Validate also checks the files in PathA. > > How can I prevent the Remove Action performing on Version 1 in PathA, > when install Version 2 in PathB. Should I set the condition > "INSTALLDIR" to somewhere, like I did for custom action? > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 13:19 > An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Betreff: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install > > When I searched in Google, I found some one has the same problem as > me. And the suggested solution is to define a property using > RegistrySearch. And also define a registry with the install path > [APPLICATIONFOLDER]. So that the upgrade will only happen when the registry with path found. > > I tried it as: > > <Property Id="INSTALLDIR"> > <RegistrySearch Id='ViewPointRegistry' Type='raw' > Root='HKCU' Key='Software\Microsoft\ViewPointUpgrade' > Name='InstallDir' /> > </Property> > > <DirectoryRef Id="APPLICATIONFOLDER"> > <Component Id="RegistryForUpgrade" > Guid="D555488C-C8E7-44eb-91EC-3750602A7599"> > <Registry Id='ViewPointInstallDir' Root='HKCU' > Key='Software\Microsoft\ViewPointUpgrade' > Name='InstallDir' Action='write' Type='string' > Value='[APPLICATIONFOLDER]' /> > </Component> > </DirectoryRef> > > And call custom action as: > > <Custom Action="UpgradeStopServices1" > Before="InstallFiles">PREVIOUSFOUND AND INSTALLDIR</Custom> > > But I got warning when I compile it: > > warning CNDL1080: The Registry element has been deprecated. Please > use one of the new elements which replaces its functionality: > RegistryKey for creating registry keys, RegistryValue for writing > registry values, RemoveRegistryKey for removing registry keys, and > RemoveRegistryValue for removing registry values. > > And when I install this version 2 installer msi, select PathB, the > problem is still there. > > Is there something wrong in the Registry define? How to change it? > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Jiang, Chunyan (GE Healthcare) > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Oktober 2009 09:04 > An: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Betreff: [WiX-users] Upgrade and new install > > Hi Wix-users, > > I have developed one upgradable installer with Wix3. As I understand > that main upgrade is same as new install. My scenario is that my > version > 1 has been installed to PathA. And I have an upgraded version 2. If I > install version to to PathA, the old files are removed, the new files > are installed. Everything is fine. If I install version 2 to PathB, > the new files are copied to PathB, same as new install. It sounds good. > > However, there are custom actions in my installer, named MyCA. MyCA > should be called only by upgrade. So if version 2 installed to PathA, > MyCA in PathA will be called. It is fine. But if version 2 is > installed in PathB, MyCA in PathA will still be called. It causes some problem for PathB install. > > How can I make a condition to MyCA, so that it will only be called > when the upgraded version installed in it's path? If version 2 is > installed in PathB, discard MyCA in PathA, do it same as new install. > > > Best regards > > Chunyan > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- Come build with us! 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