No, we haven't shipped yet.

At this point, our build system doesn't (easily) support check-ins
back to source control.  So, our -gg script might as well be an -ag
script.  I have only checked in a simple stub component file for the
project which gets over-written by a prebuild batch file that, among
other things, runs heat using -gg.

We've never done patching the past, so I'm not too worried about our
current implementation, or the limitations of heat.  But, I'll
probably take a look at parrafin at some point.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Blair <os...@live.com> wrote:
> With -ag, you don't necessarily need a checked in copy, although a reference
> copy in your build dump couldn't hurt.
>
> -gg is only recommended if you run heat just one time on the involved file
> and never ever run it again (you just maintain the authoring "manually" from
> then on). Even if you never intend to patch, it is still not a good idea for
> the same component with the same filename in the same directory to ever have
> a different guid.
>
> Changing from -gg to -ag is just as bad. Once you have used -gg you need to
> check that in and never change the guid again.
>
> I hope you haven't shipped yet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony [mailto:yellowjacketl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:45 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Build time Component.wxs generation...
>
> The would be output to changed if files were added/removed, which is
> what I'm mostly concerned about.  Web developer adds 5 more aspx pages
> and the next build's websitecomponents.wxs file will now be different
> than the previous version.  But do I need a checked in copy of a build
> time generated file??
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Brian Rogers <rogers.br...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hey Tony,
>>
>> The GUID generation for -ag doesn't actually occur until Bind time. So,
>> there would be no output for you to check in. Take a look at the Binder.cs
>> and SetComponentGuids(Output output) method for more details.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brian Rogers
>> "Intelligence removes complexity." - Me
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/icumove <-- NEW
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Tony <yellowjacketl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I guess we give up the ability patch.  Though we've never done
>>> that before.  Guess that's something for management to decide.
>>>
>>> We currently use the -gg option on one feature that would never be
>>> patched.  Though, I guess, -ag would accomplish the same behavior
>>> since -gg generates new guids as well.
>>>
>>> Do you check-in the auto-generated component.wxs file?  Or just
>>> check-in an empty sub file?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Blair <os...@live.com> wrote:
>>> > Use heat.exe with "-ag" and always use Major Upgrade (Product Id='*'),
>>> never
>>> > patch.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Tony [mailto:yellowjacketl...@gmail.com]
>>> > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 12:56 PM
>>> > To: WiX Users
>>> > Subject: [WiX-users] Build time Component.wxs generation...
>>> >
>>> > I'm aware of heat.exe and we have used to to seed our component.wxs
>>> > files for our various wixlibs, but how do you deal with features like
>>> > websites and help systems which often have dozens of files added at
>>> > any time during development cycles?  Re-running heat can work, sort
>>> > of, it will change the component guids, but leaves the component Ids
>>> > of existing components alone.  Not sure how it deals with removed
>>> > components.
>>> >
>>> > I stumbled across this 3rd party tool called Paraffin that appears to
>>> > solve this issue, but have not attempted to put it to use in our build
>>> > environment.
>>> >
>>> > What have others used to deal with features that often have an ever
>>> > growing (and sometimes shrinking) list of components?
>>> > --
>>> > Tony
>>> >
>>> >
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